Petit Computer Wiki:Chat/Logs/19 September 2013

 [12:22]  bot=human [12:22]  lol [12:22]  But I'm trying to get it to log the chat [12:22]  randomous if you give me the apis for the bot [12:22]  It's uhhh not working [12:22]  I can try to make it intelligent [12:22]  Lol nah, it's fine [12:23]  but I like bots [12:23]  so did you log yourself in as a user or did you log a bot in? through a seperate utility [12:23]  i like bots too [12:24]  Hmm? [12:24]  i once had my own bot [12:24]  Sparkbot [12:24]  Bwahaha! [12:24]  Behold: Petit Computer Wiki:Chat/Logs/19 September 2013 [12:25] <Randomouscrap98> Man... that only took FOREVER [12:25] <TwinArmageddonz> oh noes! [12:25] <TwinArmageddonz> #time4pms [12:25] <TwinArmageddonz> yes i just used a hashtag [12:25] <Randomouscrap98> It updates super fast too (might change later), so refresh it to check it out [12:26] <Sparkystream> ahhh! [12:26] <TwinArmageddonz> woah that is fast [12:26] <Sparkystream> i feel stalked [12:26] <TwinArmageddonz> im scared now [12:26] <Sparkystream> * Sparkystream hid in pms [12:26] <Randomouscrap98> Sorry guys [12:27] <Sparkystream> lo,im jk [12:27] <Randomouscrap98> It had to be done... [12:27] <TwinArmageddonz> jkjkjkjk [12:27] <Sparkystream> were jk [12:27] <TwinArmageddonz> was jk [12:27] <Sparkystream> whatcha gonna use it for? [12:27] <Randomouscrap98> It might flood the "Wiki Activity", so I might reduce the update frequency [12:27] <TwinArmageddonz> moderating chat probably [12:27] <Randomouscrap98> Exactly that, twin [12:27] <TwinArmageddonz> yesss im a genius [12:27] <TwinArmageddonz> i should get a medal [12:27] <Sparkystream> wel.... [12:27] <Sparkystream> how are u gonna do that? [12:28] <Sparkystream> have u got it an engine? [12:28] <Randomouscrap98> How am I going to do what? [12:28] <Sparkystream> or a supporting aplication that connects it to the chat? [12:28] <TwinArmageddonz> its gonna get tedious reading through the logs [12:28] <Sparkystream> how are u going to get it to moderate? [12:28] <Randomouscrap98> I don't need to. You guys just report bad stuff [12:28] <Randomouscrap98> And I'll have evidence [12:28] <Sparkystream> oh [12:28] <Sparkystream> and the bot sees it [12:28] <TwinArmageddonz> oh okay [12:29] <Sparkystream> theres our proof [12:29] <TwinArmageddonz> thats nice [12:29] <Sparkystream> does the bot stay on if u turn ur pc off? [12:29] <Randomouscrap98> If you guys don't mind someone being gross, then don't report them. But now if you want to, at least you'll have proof [12:29] <TwinArmageddonz> yaaaay [12:29] <Randomouscrap98> No, it doesn't. But my computer is always on [12:29] <Sparkystream> kk [12:29] <TwinArmageddonz> party time :D [12:29] <Randomouscrap98> It's kind of a server anyway lol [12:29] <Sparkystream> some bots ca [12:29] <TwinArmageddonz> hello mr dr [12:29] <Sparkystream> satl!:D [12:29] <Randomouscrap98> Yo, Dr. [12:29] <Sparkystream> ur be stalked [12:29] <Randomouscrap98> We have a chat logger now. [12:29] <Sparkystream> proceed with cautuion [12:30] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> no way [12:30] <Randomouscrap98> CHeck it out: Petit Computer Wiki:Chat/Logs/19 September 2013 [12:30] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> I was about to make a blog suggesting we get a bot. xD [12:30] <Randomouscrap98> You're welcome~! [12:30] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> Fntastic. [12:30] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> *fantastic [12:30] <Randomouscrap98> I need to ask DDayton if he can make the bot an admin [12:30] <Randomouscrap98> So that regular users can't edit the logs [12:30] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> I have to go, I was just checking in. [12:30] <Randomouscrap98> (well, even if they do, I can undo it) [12:30] <TwinArmageddonz> bye [12:30] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> Bye. [12:30] <Randomouscrap98> All right, by! [12:30] <Randomouscrap98> bye [12:31] <TwinArmageddonz> wait people can edit the logs? [12:31] <Randomouscrap98> For now, yes [12:31] <Randomouscrap98> But I have a record of the original log [12:31] <TwinArmageddonz> nice [12:31] <Randomouscrap98> So don't worry, nobody can fake it [12:31] <TwinArmageddonz> * TwinArmageddonz casually edits the log [12:31] <Randomouscrap98> Plus, I'll see if anyone edits it. They'll look pretty suspicious lol [12:32] <TwinArmageddonz> whoopsy lol [12:34] <Randomouscrap98> Testing [12:34] <Sparkystream> whats the chat look like to u,im sure it has like a bunch of options,like ban,temporban,kick, and other stuff? [12:34] <Randomouscrap98> Err yes [12:34] <Sparkystream> cool [12:35] <Randomouscrap98> If I want to get real fancy, I can update the logger to kick people who curse. But I won't do that for now [12:35] <TwinArmageddonz> /l00ph0les/ [12:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> XD [12:36] <TwinArmageddonz> if the chat is being logged then how has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? [12:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> very nice random [12:36] <TwinArmageddonz> twin-1 [12:36] <TwinArmageddonz> randomous-0 [12:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> that means [12:36] <Randomouscrap98> Twin, I have no idea what that was. [12:36] <Randomouscrap98> Thanks coinz! [12:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> When i give people in here advice or help with coding. Itll be logged. [12:36] <Sparkystream> thats what the bot somewhere else does [12:36] <Randomouscrap98> Yes [12:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> I am a bot [12:36] <TwinArmageddonz> that is ridiculous no one has ever really been anywhere near as far even as decided to slightly use even go want to do look KIND OF like [12:36] <TwinArmageddonz> twin-2 [12:36] <TwinArmageddonz> randomous-0 [12:37] <Randomouscrap98> This sounds like those people who mess with the Apple support [12:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> does it update frequently? this is so cool [12:37] <Randomouscrap98> Every 5 seconds [12:37] <Randomouscrap98> The only problem is that people can edit it. I have a copy of the original though, so it should be good [12:38] <TwinArmageddonz> * TwinArmageddonz forges a fake log [12:38] <TwinArmageddonz> random will never find out [12:38] <TwinArmageddonz> eheheheheh [12:38] <Randomouscrap98> Lol [12:38] <PTC Wikia Bot> I need a better picture [12:38] <TwinArmageddonz> oh no you caught me [12:39] <TwinArmageddonz> alas [12:39] <TwinArmageddonz> i am slain [12:39] <Sparkystream> i can make one &gt;:3 [12:39] <Randomouscrap98> I'm just going to use one of the Petit Computer faces [12:39] <Sparkystream> Ok [12:39] <Sparkystream> I was thinking of making a screen [12:40] <Sparkystream> and putting the ptc icon on it [12:40] <TwinArmageddonz> put a picture of a squirrel nobody will suspect a thing [12:40] <Sparkystream> lol [12:41] <TwinArmageddonz> mr sparky that was not a joke u hav ofendded me [12:41] <TwinArmageddonz> i wil report u to random mouse 89 [12:42] <Sparkystream> -w- [12:42] <Sparkystream> sureeeeeee... [12:42] <TwinArmageddonz> u underestimaite my power [12:42] <Sparkystream> Breaking News:Twin Is trying to get pigs to fly so he can report me. [12:42] <Sparkystream> XD [12:43] <Sparkystream> w [12:43] <Sparkystream> Satl!:D [12:43] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> Hello. [12:43] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> Hey... [12:43] <TwinArmageddonz> hello mr. dr [12:43] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> Does the bot have commands? [12:43] <TwinArmageddonz> the bot is a command [12:43] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> !seen Sparkystream [12:43] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> Nevermind. [12:43] <Sparkystream> Not ye SAID RANDOM [12:43] <Sparkystream> *yet [12:43] <Sparkystream> oh i mean [12:44] <Sparkystream> * Sparkystream heard Random say not yet,but he didnt,and nobody else did. [12:44] <Dr. Satl, M.D.> Oh... [12:46] <Sparkystream> i was jk [12:47] <TwinArmageddonz> XD [12:48] <Randomouscrap98> OK, I'm going to shut down the bot for a second so I can change the interval. It's going to be every minute instead. [12:48] <Sparkystream> kk [12:48] <TwinArmageddonz> ok [12:48] <Randomouscrap98> Errr actually, I'll leave it as is for now. I want to see how ridiculous the pages that get edited so often are [12:49] <TwinArmageddonz> lolwut [12:50] <Randomouscrap98> All right, see you all later [12:50] <TwinArmageddonz> bye friend [12:51] <Sparkystream> bye [12:52] <TwinArmageddonz> im making ridiculous pictures [12:52] <Sparkystream> editing os almst done [12:52] <Sparkystream> lol [12:56] <TwinArmageddonz> bot is away does that mean its not logging [12:57] <Sparkystream> idk [12:57] <Sparkystream> its logging [12:57] <TwinArmageddonz> yeah [12:57] <Sparkystream> random logged out earlier and it logged [12:57] <TwinArmageddonz> yep\\ [12:58] <TwinArmageddonz> http://www.phonebloks.com/ [12:58] <Sparkystream> ? [12:59] <Sparkystream> oh froot [12:59] <Sparkystream> its logggin as we speak [12:59] <Sparkystream> and auto updating [12:59] <Sparkystream> every second [12:59] <Sparkystream> dog [12:59] <Sparkystream> cat [12:59] <Sparkystream> bot [12:59] <Sparkystream> zebra [12:59] <Sparkystream> bots beat the clock to stay on top [12:59] <Sparkystream> omf [01:00] <Sparkystream> just oh my froot [01:00] <Sparkystream> heyy,Sparky here [01:00] <Sparkystream> and your watching [01:00] <Sparkystream> "the Chat Log" [01:00] <Sparkystream> So get a spark,and get ot! [01:00] <Sparkystream> 8out [01:01] <Sparkystream> there is a 25%n chance that random has the same pass as the bot [01:01] <Sparkystream> also 25 for brian [01:01] <Sparkystream> and 50 for something else [01:01] <TwinArmageddonz> there is a 4% chance of a spontaneous combustion [01:05] <Sparkystream> lol [01:06] <TwinArmageddonz> http://logs.omegle.com/2234bde [01:08] <Sparkystream> i love omegle [01:08] <Sparkystream> u use it too? [01:10] <TwinArmageddonz> yeah [01:10] <TwinArmageddonz> i like messing with people [01:10] <Sparkystream> lol [01:12] <Pokeyoshi19> Hai [01:13] <TwinArmageddonz> hello [01:13] <TwinArmageddonz> chat is being logged [01:13] <Pokeyoshi19> Who is "PTC Wikia Bot"? [01:13] <TwinArmageddonz> ptc wikia bot logs it [01:13] <Pokeyoshi19> logs means what [01:13] <TwinArmageddonz> * TwinArmageddonz whispers its actually randomous [01:13] <TwinArmageddonz> Petit Computer Wiki:Chat/Logs/19 September 2013?t=20130919002556 [01:14] <Sparkystream> hi yoshi,ur files are ready [01:15] <Sparkystream> twin,do u know if it would be legal to read a petit strategy guide online without paying?I found a pdf of it [01:15] <Pokeyoshi19> So, he's recording what we say? [01:15] <Sparkystream> whole entire thing [01:15] <Sparkystream> oh [01:15] <Sparkystream> yes [01:15] <Pokeyoshi19> Why [01:15] <Sparkystream> if it is allowed,id liem to print it [01:16] <Sparkystream> why what? [01:16] <Sparkystream> oh so mods can veiw everything said [01:16] <Sparkystream> and anything reported had evidence [01:16] <Pokeyoshi19> ... [01:16] <TwinArmageddonz> evidence and stuff [01:16] <Pokeyoshi19> Hi mods! [01:16] <TwinArmageddonz> pretty sure its legal just dont go waving it around in people's faces [01:16] <Pokeyoshi19> Ok so my files are ready? [01:16] <Sparkystream> kk,would it be okay to print it? [01:17] <TwinArmageddonz> sure whatever you want [01:17] <Sparkystream> would not printing it be safer? [01:17] <Pokeyoshi19> No, QRs please *-* [01:17] <Sparkystream> ....um [01:17] <Sparkystream> yoshi,i left it as code [01:17] <Sparkystream> i was too lazy to qr it [01:17] <Sparkystream> u made me get over 25 songs [01:17] <Pokeyoshi19> I can do APPEND when you give me a QR, so it's very fast [01:17] <Sparkystream> and i organized every single one in a folder for each song [01:18] <Sparkystream> if u wanted qr,waitll tomarrow [01:18] <Sparkystream> ill do it tomarrow [01:18] <Pokeyoshi19> No problem [01:19] <Pokeyoshi19> But in 2 days its too late [01:19] <TwinArmageddonz> its never too late if you believe [01:19] <Sparkystream> i know [01:20] <Sparkystream> i must do it by friday [01:20] <TwinArmageddonz> im gonna give my rpg a story :D [01:20] <TwinArmageddonz> sadly ill have to make more sprites though :/ [01:21] <TwinArmageddonz> hello mr tobu sir [01:22] <TwinArmageddonz> this chat is being logged now [01:22] <TobuKatsu> Been playing some new gamz [01:22] <TwinArmageddonz> now randomous will have evidence to ban everyone [01:22] <Pokeyoshi19> Friday is too late, Sparky [01:22] <TwinArmageddonz> its never too late if you believe yoshi [01:22] <Pokeyoshi19> no [01:22] <TobuKatsu> belieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeee [01:23] <GimmeMoreCoinz> lol [01:23] <GimmeMoreCoinz> what are you guyz talking about [01:23] <Pokeyoshi19> idk [01:23] <Sparkystream> me and straegy guide free,yoshis song,twins rpg [01:23] <Pokeyoshi19> I was programming Tic-Tac-Toe, but it was too hard; i stopped. [01:24] <TwinArmageddonz> hahahahahahaha n00b i bet i could do it in 3 minutes ahahahaahahahahah tr00lled so hard xxxxD [01:24] <Pokeyoshi19> Lawl, i'm a noob [01:24] <Pokeyoshi19> BAN HIM [01:24] <Pokeyoshi19> Jk [01:24] <TobuKatsu> whats troolled?I heard of trolled but not troolled [01:25] <TwinArmageddonz> jkjkjkjkjkjkjk dont ban me im innocent i swear on tobus 3ds [01:25] <TwinArmageddonz> (sorry tobu) [01:25] <Pokeyoshi19> xD [01:25] <TobuKatsu> Ban him [01:25] <TwinArmageddonz> (dont hate) [01:25] <TwinArmageddonz> and btw fyi t00bu its tr00lled not trooled [01:25] <TobuKatsu> i got lawts of new gamez [01:25] <TwinArmageddonz> hahahahahahahahahaa [01:26] <Pokeyoshi19> Hey mods, i love u [01:26] <TwinArmageddonz> ok im done being a pleb [01:26] <TobuKatsu> peacker [01:27] <TwinArmageddonz> sory [01:27] <TwinArmageddonz> omg one of the songs im adding to my game has 4 qr codes [01:27] <TwinArmageddonz> for just one song [01:27] <Pokeyoshi19> So, i'm done for SMB3 and FTRCITY, now i fix some bugs in my secret game... Tip: It's a Nintendo fan game [01:27] <TwinArmageddonz> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay [01:27] <TobuKatsu> I haz Kerpsploosh [01:28] <TwinArmageddonz> how is it [01:28] <TwinArmageddonz> is it worth it [01:28] <TobuKatsu> fun &amp; funny [01:28] <TwinArmageddonz> should i buy it [01:28] <TobuKatsu> you unlock things to throw down a well [01:28] <TobuKatsu> watermelon [01:28] <Pokeyoshi19> It's fine, but theres still sprite scrolling glitches :x [01:28] <TobuKatsu> a wooden fish(musical instrument) [01:28] <TwinArmageddonz> so its worth it? [01:28] <TobuKatsu> a jewel [01:28] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh yeah, you guys were talking about the legality of the chat logger. It's legal, I checked. Sorry it's less private now [01:28] <TobuKatsu> iron ball [01:29] <TwinArmageddonz> oh i think we were talking about something else [01:29] <TwinArmageddonz> im perfectly fine with the chat logger [01:29] <TobuKatsu> an invinsible bouncy ball [01:29] <TobuKatsu> invincible [01:29] <Pokeyoshi19> I'm not fine with the troll logger [01:30] <TwinArmageddonz> then talk in pms [01:30] <Pokeyoshi19> no [01:30] <Sparkystream> huhh? [01:30] <TwinArmageddonz> hi star [01:30] <Sparkystream> no,thats not what were talking about random [01:30] <Sparkystream> hi star [01:30] <Starwin321> Jello [01:30] <Pokeyoshi19> We're 8 on the chat [01:30] <Sparkystream> join the party random [01:30] <TobuKatsu> I has liberation maiden and MSF2 all very guud gamz d: [01:31] <TwinArmageddonz> become one of us random [01:31] <Pokeyoshi19> No he's in the Admin party [01:32] <TobuKatsu> d: [01:32] <TwinArmageddonz> we arent cool enough for the admin party [01:32] <Starwin321> :..( [01:33] <Pokeyoshi19> They arent cool enought to be in our party [01:33] <TwinArmageddonz> yeah [01:33] <Pokeyoshi19> So? Do you have ideas for PMP minigames? [01:34] <TobuKatsu> I got shantae to, it looked fun [01:34] <TwinArmageddonz> whack a yoshi [01:34] <Pokeyoshi19> xD [01:34] <Calc84maniac> I was about to ask what the heck PMP is, but I think I figured it out :P [01:34] <Pokeyoshi19> What? [01:34] <Calc84maniac> Petit Mario Party? [01:35] <Pokeyoshi19> Exactly [01:35] <TobuKatsu> Painish Masher Master [01:35] <TobuKatsu> Power [01:35] <TobuKatsu> Painish Masher Power [01:35] <TobuKatsu> Genius! [01:36] <Calc84maniac> either that or Portable Media Player [01:36] <Pokeyoshi19> Calc, every programmer on the wiki will have his own minigame for PMP. What do you want to do as your minigame? [01:37] <Calc84maniac> hmmmm [01:37] <TobuKatsu> Youz all ned MSF 1&amp;2 [01:38] <Calc84maniac> "Waluigi Time" [01:38] <Calc84maniac> whoever's playing as Waluigi wins [01:38] <PTC Wikia Bot> Calc, just wanted to let you know that the chat is being logged. You're not doing anything wrong, I just wanted to let you know lol [01:38] <Calc84maniac> yeah, I saw [01:38] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oops, sorry about that [01:39] <Calc84maniac> well, we can always erase it anyway, with a [01:39] <Calc84maniac> NEW [01:39] <TwinArmageddonz> aahahahahahahahah #tr0lled [01:40] <TwinArmageddonz> jk [01:40] <Calc84maniac> * Calc84maniac runs [01:40] <Pokeyoshi19> Tobu, if you're saying this because the girlz in the game had big b**bz, then please stop saying it. [01:41] <TwinArmageddonz> &gt;b**bz [01:41] <Pokeyoshi19> Yeah, b**bz [01:41] <Calc84maniac> so many unexplained acronyms in this chat [01:41] <Pokeyoshi19> Sorry for my language. [01:41] <TwinArmageddonz> gtg [01:42] <TwinArmageddonz> goodbye friends [01:42] <TwinArmageddonz> i will read the entire log tomorrow :^) [01:42] <Calc84maniac> and I'm referring to "MSF" in particular here :P [01:42] <Pokeyoshi19> G00dbye &gt;:3 [01:42] <Sparkystream> ??? [01:42] <TobuKatsu> No [01:42] <TwinArmageddonz> g000000dbi [01:42] <Sparkystream> bye twin [01:42] <TobuKatsu> Apparently who havent seen ANY gameplay [01:43] <Sparkystream> poor star [01:43] <Sparkystream> we ignored star [01:43] <Pokeyoshi19> He left [01:43] <Sparkystream> yep [01:43] <Sparkystream> after making a sad face [01:43] <Pokeyoshi19> Yep. [01:43] <TobuKatsu> MSF=Mighty Switch Force [01:44] <Calc84maniac> ah, right [01:44] <Pokeyoshi19> I know Tobu [01:44] <Pokeyoshi19> But this chat is for PTC [01:44] <TobuKatsu> Most of the time your not talking about ptc anyways d: [01:44] <TobuKatsu> you should see CP's Chat [01:45] <TobuKatsu> nothing cp there [01:45] <Pokeyoshi19> &gt;x3 [01:45] <Sparkystream> 'w' [01:45] <Pokeyoshi19> |:3 [01:45] <Sparkystream> i wanan make a bot [01:45] <Sparkystream> and i looked thru the script and found where this one came from [01:46] <Sparkystream> maybe ill make Sparkbot [01:46] <Pokeyoshi19> HI MODS [01:46] <Sparkystream> or sparkfallbot 2.0 [01:47] <Sparkystream> ooh,the bots icon isnt working [01:48] <Calc84maniac> one of these days I'll find a legit reason to use a two-dimensional array of strings [01:48] <PTC Wikia Bot> If your bot is malicious or destructive, it will be delete. Just wanted to let you know [01:48] <Sparkystream> why would it be? [01:48] <Sparkystream> Of course [01:48] <TobuKatsu> ? [01:48] <TobuKatsu> make a bot? [01:48] <Sparkystream> my old bot couldnt spam or do anything wrong [01:48] <Sparkystream> yep [01:49] <Sparkystream> sparkfallbot used to moniter the chat and respond to things if u added * at the begining [01:49] <Pokeyoshi19> *LOL [01:50] <Sparkystream> no [01:50] <Sparkystream> this bot only moniters [01:50] <Pokeyoshi19> ... [01:51] <Sparkystream> and besides on that site each bot had a specfic symbol [01:51] <TobuKatsu> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Spam_with_cans.jpeg [01:51] <Sparkystream> like *meow sparkbot:meeewwoooooow !wolf yoshibot:wolllffff aroor arro bow wow [01:51] <Pokeyoshi19> I think i'll do the Petit interactive contest thing [01:51] <Sparkystream> lol-tobu [01:51] <Sparkystream> kk-yoshi [01:52] <Calc84maniac> so, I found out something interesting about string variables [01:52] <Sparkystream> anybody ever been here? http://www.cleverbot.com/ [01:52] <Sparkystream> what? [01:52] <Pokeyoshi19> Just need to read the page... [01:52] <TobuKatsu> we should make games for ptc that are like MSF, LM, and Kersploosh [01:53] <Calc84maniac> they are actually references to string objects, and do not contain the actual string data [01:53] <Calc84maniac> that is, if you assign a string variable to another, they are referring to the same string object [01:53] <Calc84maniac> but if you do any operations on the string, it will create a new string object [01:54] <Sparkystream> random,what re the bot rules? [01:54] <Sparkystream> wait,whats lm katsu? [01:54] <Calc84maniac> the significance of this is that the 4096-string limit only counts for unique string objects, not to references [01:55] <Sparkystream> the bots icon came [02:09] <Sparkystream> bigger font [02:09] <Sparkystream> thats ok [02:09] <Randomouscrap98> It's not really important... [02:09] <Sparkystream> can i make it for my bot tho? [02:09] <Sparkystream> +chat [02:09] <Sparkystream> moniter [02:09] <Sparkystream> and play games [02:11] <Randomouscrap98> Err if you want. [02:11] <TobuKatsu> Randomouse [02:11] <Sparkystream> Errr,well i guess i will.^^ [02:12] <Randomouscrap98> Hmm, I wonder why it left [02:12] <Sparkystream> me too [02:13] <Randomouscrap98> I guess I'll need to keep an eye on it. [02:13] <TobuKatsu> Mouse [02:13] <Randomouscrap98> Yes? [02:13] <TobuKatsu> I had to press [02:13] <TobuKatsu> a [02:13] <TobuKatsu> Button A [02:13] <Randomouscrap98> What do you mean? There's no context lol [02:14] <TobuKatsu> "I sent you a link on how to play solitaire and your still asking questions" [02:14] <TobuKatsu> Your sentence [02:14] <Randomouscrap98> I sent that weeks ago. I'm confused [02:15] <TobuKatsu> I had to pres A when all stacks were there [02:15] <Randomouscrap98> Right. It says that in the controls. What do you mean? [02:15] <TobuKatsu> it didnt [02:16] <TobuKatsu> this was the first version [02:16] <TobuKatsu> it wasnt in the controls [02:16] <Randomouscrap98> It's always been in the controls. [02:16] <Randomouscrap98> As long as the controls have been there, anyway [02:16] <TobuKatsu> no, it said A=Shortcut [02:16] <Randomouscrap98> Right, it still says that [02:16] <TobuKatsu> not also"A=Shortcut/Win after completing all stacks [02:16] <Randomouscrap98> That's exactly what "Shortcut" is. Instead of having to drag everything to the top, you press A and it does it for you [02:17] <Randomouscrap98> You don't HAVE to press A to win [02:17] <TobuKatsu> it didnt do anything with all 4 stacks completed [02:17] <Randomouscrap98> I'm sorry, I can't help you. [02:17] <Randomouscrap98> Someone else, please explain to Tobu how Solitaire works [02:17] <TobuKatsu> *facepalm [02:18] <Randomouscrap98> No, it's you that's at fault [02:18] <Randomouscrap98> I can't help someone so unwilling to help themselves. [02:18] <TobuKatsu> If i dont know how to play solotaire than how did i complete a round? [02:18] <Randomouscrap98> Someone else, please. Before I go crazy [02:18] <TobuKatsu> Your the one who doesnt understand what I say [02:18] <Randomouscrap98> I'm out. I can't deal with tobu [02:18] <Randomouscrap98> Bye [02:19] <Sparkystream> Create ONE user account. Multiple accounts from the identical user may result in a block. Is bots breaking this? [02:19] <PTC Wikia Bot> No [02:19] <Sparkystream> hi Zyexx [02:20] <TobuKatsu> He didnt understand what ive said did he? [02:20] <PTC Wikia Bot> Can you please stop acting like you're the only one who is capable of thought? [02:21] <TobuKatsu> Me? [02:21] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yes. [02:21] <Sparkystream> m? [02:21] <TobuKatsu> Im not [02:21] <Sparkystream> Oh [02:21] <Sparkystream> * Sparkystream is watching in amusement [02:21] <Sparkystream> * Sparkystream crunched on some popcorn. [02:22] <TobuKatsu> now I feel like eating popcorn [02:22] <Sparkystream> * Sparkystream handed some popcorn to Katsu. [02:22] <TobuKatsu> Its not real [02:22] <TobuKatsu> Its a lie [02:22] <Sparkystream> Ik [02:22] <TobuKatsu> This is a chat [02:22] <Sparkystream> Popcorn [02:22] <Sparkystream> Undefined object (4;Popcorn) [02:23] <TobuKatsu> UO [02:23] <Sparkystream> ? [02:24] <TobuKatsu> UnIdentified Object [02:24] <Randomouscrap98> *Sigh* OK Tobu, I'll go through the rules of Solitaire extremely slowly. [02:24] <Sparkystream> Oh Lol [02:24] <Randomouscrap98> Since you didn't bother reading the rules yourslef [02:24] <TobuKatsu> I know how to plaaay! [02:24] <Randomouscrap98> Ready? Here we go [02:24] <Sparkystream> * Sparkystream sits back down with popcorn. [02:24] <TobuKatsu> I told you! [02:24] <Randomouscrap98> Obviously you don't [02:24] <Randomouscrap98> So please let me explain [02:24] <TobuKatsu> You stack card in stacks red under black/black under red [02:25] <TobuKatsu> 4 stacks to win [02:25] <TobuKatsu> from K-A [02:25] <Sparkystream> Random wants to know why your wondering something still if you know the rules,so hes doubting you and telling you the rules. [02:25] <Randomouscrap98> "The object is to create four piles of cards - one per suit - in ascending order (beginning with Ace and ending with King)." [02:25] <Randomouscrap98> Now, read that one part [02:25] <Randomouscrap98> "ONE PER SUIT" [02:25] <Randomouscrap98> That's the first error [02:25] <Randomouscrap98> So no, you don't know how to play because you didn't read. Let's continue [02:25] <TobuKatsu> Ive won 13 frikin rounds [02:25] <TobuKatsu> since i got it [02:25] <Sparkystream> Syntax Error(Line 3) [02:25] <Randomouscrap98> "Look at the cards on the table that are face up. If there are any aces, place them above the seven piles." [02:26] <Randomouscrap98> OK, note the important word here [02:26] <Sparkystream> PRINT"THEN WHAT DO YOU WANT"~RANDOM [02:26] <Randomouscrap98> "ABOVE" the seven piles [02:26] <Randomouscrap98> You tap an ace, and it goes to one of the four spaces above the seven piles [02:27] <TobuKatsu> I know -_- [02:27] <Sparkystream> Print"WHAT DON'T YOU GET?" BGM 128 128=Random's Fustrartion Arrengement 9 [02:27] <Sparkystream> VSYNC [02:27] <Randomouscrap98> Let's continue [02:27] <Randomouscrap98> After placing an ace, you can place a 2, then a 3, etc. IN ONE OF THE FOUR SLOTS ABOVE THE SEVEN [02:27] <TobuKatsu> Lets not [02:27] <Sparkystream> If END,@GOTO MAIN -start conversation over again,and keep fighting [02:27] <TobuKatsu> becaue i know how to play [02:28] <Sparkystream> PRINT"WHAT ARE YOU ASKING THEN" [02:28] <Randomouscrap98> You obviously don't, because you're accusing ME of not knowing how to play when I MADE THE GAME!!!! [02:28] <TobuKatsu> Ive won 13 rounds, your not listening to a word im saying [02:28] <Randomouscrap98> Jesus christ, forget it [02:28] <Randomouscrap98> Goodbye again. [02:28] <Sparkystream> 'o' [02:28] <Randomouscrap98> You won't listen to A SINGLE WORD I say [02:28] <Sparkystream> never seen random so mad,prob never seen him mad at all [02:29] <TobuKatsu> You dont listen to me [02:29] <Randomouscrap98> So yeah, bye. Maybe someone else will help you. Although I doubt anyone can, because you're so absolutely stubborn and obnoxiously full of yourself. [02:29] <Randomouscrap98> So goodbye [02:29] <TobuKatsu> i said ive won 13 rounds [02:29] <TobuKatsu> im not [02:29] <Sparkystream> @MAIN PRINT"STUPID CONVERSATION IF STUPID CONVERSATION END GOTO@MAIN [02:29] <TobuKatsu> i know how to play and you continue tring to teach me what i know [02:30] <Sparkystream> random wants to help you,heres what he needs [02:30] <Sparkystream> (Random) [02:30] <Sparkystream> What [02:30] <Sparkystream> are [02:30] <Sparkystream> you [02:30] <Sparkystream> asking [02:30] <Sparkystream> me [02:30] <Sparkystream> then? [02:30] <TobuKatsu> Im not asking anything [02:30] <Sparkystream> o.o [02:30] <Sparkystream> Oh [02:31] <Sparkystream> WEll,he thguht u were because- [02:31] <TobuKatsu> Ive won 13 times [02:31] <TobuKatsu> he said i didnt understand that one night and i had ALL 4 Separate piles completed [02:31] <Sparkystream> I had to pres A when all stacks were there [02:31] <Sparkystream> you [02:31] <Sparkystream> idk how to play solitare [02:32] <Sparkystream> is it fun? [02:32] <TobuKatsu> I had to press A to finish the game [02:32] <TobuKatsu> And he is trying to reteach it to me [02:32] <Sparkystream> random wants to know hy youd point that out,so now he thinks that you dunno how to play,because you iddnt say you knew that was supposed to happen [02:32] <Lumage> Hello [02:32] <Sparkystream> Lumage:D [02:32] <Sparkystream> [02:33] <Sparkystream> * Sparkystream will now dl solitare [02:33] <TobuKatsu> It said A - Shortcut [02:33] <TobuKatsu> it didnt say A was used to finish the game [02:33] <Lumage> I have won zero games. [02:33] <TobuKatsu> I won 13 [02:34] <TobuKatsu> then got board [02:34] <Lumage> I got metal. [02:34] <TobuKatsu> I got wood [02:35] <Lumage> I got turkey. [02:35] <TobuKatsu> i got the beef [02:35] <Randomouscrap98> OK, now that I've calmed down again, let me show you with pictures [02:35] <TobuKatsu> I KNOW HOW TO PLAY [02:35] <TobuKatsu> for the 500th time [02:35] <Randomouscrap98> I get that you've won [02:35] <Lumage> Calmed down again? Have I missed something? [02:36] <Randomouscrap98> I understand. I'm not AN IDIOT [02:36] <Randomouscrap98> You are not the only one capable of comprehension [02:36] <Sparkystream> Downloaded [02:36] <Sparkystream> yep-lumage [02:36] <TobuKatsu> Then why are you trying to teach me if i know how to play!? [02:36] <Randomouscrap98> Because if you knew the right way to play, you wouldn't think that pressing A is the only way to win. [02:37] <Randomouscrap98> You're not building stacks down at the bottom. You're trying to build them at the top [02:37] <Randomouscrap98> That top row of 4 slots [02:37] <TobuKatsu> I thought it would auto finish it at first when i stacked 4 complete piles [02:37] <Lumage> On the front page, the link to the french PTC page says "Petit Commuter Community" [02:37] <Randomouscrap98> It's not 4 piles at the bottom [02:37] <Randomouscrap98> It's 4 piles at the top [02:37] <Randomouscrap98> I'm taking pictures now [02:38] <Sparkystream> yoshi'w' [02:38] <Pokeyoshi19> I'm back [02:38] <Pokeyoshi19> Hi Randomous and Lumage [02:38] <Randomouscrap98> Hello [02:39] <Randomouscrap98> OK tobu, here we go [02:39] <Sparkystream> i dont get solitare [02:39] <TobuKatsu> I KNOW! [02:39] <Sparkystream> ill listen [02:39] <Randomouscrap98> I'm not telling you how to play [02:39] <Sparkystream> o [02:39] <Randomouscrap98> I'm showing you why you don't need A [02:39] <TobuKatsu> I KNOW HOW TO FRIKIN PLA the FRIKIN game [02:39] <Pokeyoshi19> ? [02:39] <Randomouscrap98> OK, now you're the one that's not listening [02:39] <TobuKatsu> You are not [02:39] <Randomouscrap98> I specifically said "I'm NOT telling you how to play" [02:40] <TobuKatsu> i know how to play and you try to teach me something i know [02:40] <Randomouscrap98> At this point, I'm pretty sure you're just trying to be difficulty [02:40] <Randomouscrap98> *difficult [02:40] <Sparkystream> theyre in a big arguement yoshi [02:40] <Randomouscrap98> I'm fairly certain you're just an attention seeking troll. But i'm still willing to help [02:40] <Sparkystream> aktsu is always getting into fights [02:40] <Randomouscrap98> So here we go. I'm NOT showing you how to play [02:40] <Pokeyoshi19> lol [02:40] <Sparkystream> its like watching a comedy show [02:41] <Randomouscrap98> OK, take a look at this picture [02:41] <Randomouscrap98> I don't find this amusing Sparky [02:41] <TobuKatsu> If i was a troll i would have never came back here because everyone would know i would be a troll because i would be going trolololol EVRYWHERE! [02:41] <Randomouscrap98> Sorry [02:41] <Sparkystream> sry-random [02:41] <Randomouscrap98> Here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4753340/Online%20posting/random%20forum%20stuff/IMG_20130918_223802.jpg [02:41] <Randomouscrap98> Let me know when you've taken a look [02:41] <Sparkystream> it kinda seemed like you guys were dong it on purpose actually [02:42] <Pokeyoshi19> I took a look [02:42] <Sparkystream> mine arent pikachus DX [02:42] <Randomouscrap98> You can change them to pikachu! Just press left or right [02:42] <Randomouscrap98> Well Tobu, I'm waiting [02:42] <Sparkystream> wow,thats really cool [02:43] <Randomouscrap98> Thank you! [02:43] <Sparkystream> yw [02:43] <Randomouscrap98> You can also press up/down to change the background felt color [02:43] <Sparkystream> that i saw on top screen [02:43] <Pokeyoshi19> The only bg i like is green [02:43] <Sparkystream> i wonder why i didnt notice change card design [02:43] <Randomouscrap98> Lol yeah, I like that one the most too [02:43] <Sparkystream> me too yoshi [02:44] <Randomouscrap98> In solitaire, you're just trying to get all 52 cards stacked by suit up at the top [02:44] <Pokeyoshi19> Who wants to know whats my surprise game? [02:44] <Sparkystream> what?-yoshi [02:44] <Randomouscrap98> You start with Ace, and you build up to King. You can only place a 2 on an Ace, a 3 on a 2, etc. [02:45] <Randomouscrap98> Tobu? Are you going to look at that picture? [02:45] <Randomouscrap98> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4753340/Online%20posting/random%20forum%20stuff/IMG_20130918_223802.jpg [02:45] <TobuKatsu> I wouldnt have won the game, if I didnt know how to plaaaaaaaay [02:45] <Pokeyoshi19> Sparky: I don't say it, else it would not be a surprise! [02:45] <Randomouscrap98> It's not a picture telling you how to win [02:46] <Randomouscrap98> If you're not going to look at it, I'm not going to help you with the "A" problem [02:46] <Sparkystream> DX-Yoshi [02:46] <Lumage> you could have gone in edit mode and changed you # of wins variable. [02:46] <Sparkystream> lumage,u hacker XD [02:47] <TobuKatsu> start with king, and go down, KQJ1098765432A [02:47] <Randomouscrap98> See, no [02:47] <TobuKatsu> thats how i win [02:47] <Randomouscrap98> This is exactly why I said you're doing it wrong [02:47] <Sparkystream> huh [02:47] <Randomouscrap98> Can you please look at the picture? [02:47] <Lumage> Sí, pero no. [02:47] <Randomouscrap98> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4753340/Online%20posting/random%20forum%20stuff/IMG_20130918_223802.jpg [02:47] <Sparkystream> i just found sorta how 2 play [02:47] <TobuKatsu> its even on the actual solotaire on the f*king computer [02:47] <Randomouscrap98> Please do not fake curse [02:47] <Randomouscrap98> Do not real curse either [02:48] <Randomouscrap98> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4753340/Online%20posting/random%20forum%20stuff/IMG_20130918_223802.jpg [02:48] <Lumage> I recall someone having made Minesweeper... [02:48] <Calc84maniac> I made minesweeper once upon a time [02:48] <Pokeyoshi19> I didnt [02:48] <Pokeyoshi19> Ok [02:48] <Calc84maniac> but I lost it on that day [02:48] <Calc84maniac> that fateful day [02:48] <TobuKatsu> its called censoring [02:48] <Randomouscrap98> Listen Tobu, you're wasting my time here. Can you please take a look? [02:48] <TobuKatsu> not fake cursing [02:49] <Randomouscrap98> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4753340/Online%20posting/random%20forum%20stuff/IMG_20130918_223802.jpg [02:49] <Randomouscrap98> We all know what you're trying to say [02:49] <Randomouscrap98> If you do it again, I will ban you [02:49] <Calc84maniac> minesweeper was one of the first things I made with PTC, iirc [02:49] <TobuKatsu> NO!I know how to play ive seen the picture i seen the HOW TO IVE PLAYED THE GAME [02:49] <Randomouscrap98> What's the first card on the left in the picture then? [02:49] <Calc84maniac> pretty much the only thing I did with BG/tilemaps [02:50] <Randomouscrap98> I'm sorry to everyone else who has to deal with this [02:50] <Pokeyoshi19> Yeah... [02:50] <Lumage> S'okay [02:50] <TobuKatsu> than maybe you should actually listen to what im saying [02:50] <Sparkystream> id like to know how to pay [02:50] <Lumage> (Or is it 'Sokay) [02:50] <Randomouscrap98> OK, listen. I understand that you're trying to be difficult. But can you please stop? [02:50] <Sparkystream> im sorta finding out by playing it myself [02:51] <Randomouscrap98> And just take a look at the picture: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4753340/Online%20posting/random%20forum%20stuff/IMG_20130918_223802.jpg [02:51] <TobuKatsu> Im not trying to do anything but tell you i know how to play [02:51] <Pokeyoshi19> * Pokeyoshi19 don't want Tobu to get banned. [02:52] <Randomouscrap98> And I've repeatedly told you (in vain) that I'm not trying to tell you how to play. I just want you to look at a picture [02:52] <Randomouscrap98> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4753340/Online%20posting/random%20forum%20stuff/IMG_20130918_223802.jpg [02:52] <TobuKatsu> then what is it then?The rules? [02:52] <Randomouscrap98> No [02:52] <Randomouscrap98> Just look at the picture [02:52] <Randomouscrap98> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4753340/Online%20posting/random%20forum%20stuff/IMG_20130918_223802.jpg [02:52] <Pokeyoshi19> It's a screenshot, a simple screenshot... [02:53] <TobuKatsu> i know [02:53] <Randomouscrap98> What's the first card on the left? [02:54] <TobuKatsu> what are you even trying to do? [02:55] <Pokeyoshi19> xD [02:55] <Pokeyoshi19> Just say it [02:55] <Randomouscrap98> I'm asking you an extremely straight forward question. And if you don't stop being absolutely stubborn, I will ban you for being a troll. That's all there is to it. [02:55] <Randomouscrap98> Either admit that you just don't want help, or stop being difficult [02:56] <TobuKatsu> All i told you is that i had to press A and you said i couldnt teach myself and i proved you wrong, what are you trying to do? [02:56] <Randomouscrap98> OK, I'm assuming you're a troll. [02:56] <TobuKatsu> it had nothing to do with solotaire [02:56] <Randomouscrap98> I'm sorry [02:56] <TobuKatsu> it had to do with your games controls [02:57] <TobuKatsu> your a troll [02:57] <Randomouscrap98> Sorry everyone [02:57] <Pokeyoshi19> ... [02:57] <Randomouscrap98> He's been trolling multiple users, it's not just me [02:57] <Sparkystream> o.o [02:57] <Sparkystream> 'n' [02:57] <Randomouscrap98> Gimme can vouch for it. Brian can vouch [02:57] <Randomouscrap98> Maybe calc has tried to help him too. [02:57] <Sparkystream> what happens to banned users? [02:58] <Sparkystream> can they still see the chat? [02:58] <Randomouscrap98> He gets unbanned in a week [02:58] <Sparkystream> ok [02:58] <Randomouscrap98> He can go look at the logs if he likes [02:58] <Randomouscrap98> Listen, I'm really sorry everyone. [02:58] <Randomouscrap98> I hate banning people or getting angry. But Tobu is obviously trying his absolute best to be difficult [02:58] <Sparkystream> thats ok [02:59] <Pokeyoshi19> I was trying to send him a PM saying that the first card was a 6, but i didn't know how to send PM &gt;:3 [02:59] <Lumage> Does arguing with non-genwunners count as something to vouch for? [02:59] <Sparkystream> i told u how yoshi [02:59] <Randomouscrap98> You click on his name, then click "Send PM" [02:59] <Randomouscrap98> Or "Private Message" actually [02:59] <Pokeyoshi19> Sparky: You said me how 3 seconds before he got banned xD [03:00] <Randomouscrap98> Does anybody else want to learn how to play solitaire? [03:00] <Sparkystream> me [03:00] <Pokeyoshi19> No, thanks. [03:00] <Randomouscrap98> Lumage, what did you say? I'm confused [03:00] <Randomouscrap98> Lol it's not a threat Poke. I'm not going to ban you if you don't want to learn [03:00] <Calc84maniac> I already know. I should probably try your game at some point :P [03:00] <Lumage> I think I can vouch against him. [03:00] <Randomouscrap98> Oh, have you tried to help him? [03:01] <Randomouscrap98> Hey, Gimme [03:01] <Lumage> Not really, but he just tries to fight with everyone on chat. [03:01] <Randomouscrap98> Are you there? [03:01] <Sparkystream> yes [03:01] <Sparkystream> Oh,nvm [03:01] <Randomouscrap98> At least it's not just me. Well, thanks Lumage [03:01] <Randomouscrap98> Anyway, Solitaire [03:02] <Sparkystream> Its Running Now [03:02] <Randomouscrap98> You should probably press Y to switch to "one card draw" [03:02] <Sparkystream> ok [03:02] <Randomouscrap98> It's the easier one [03:02] <Sparkystream> set [03:02] <Lumage> Why would 3 card draw be an option? [03:02] <Randomouscrap98> You're presented with 7 stacks of cards, and 4 empty piles at the top, right? [03:02] <Sparkystream> yes [03:02] <Randomouscrap98> It's the real way to play Lumage [03:02] <Randomouscrap98> 1 card is the "easy" way lol [03:02] <Sparkystream> i had three piles las time,but there was no 4th a [03:02] <Lumage> I see. [03:03] <Randomouscrap98> The goal is to get all 52 cards up to those 4 empty piles by building them by suit. You start with Ace, then go up to King. [03:03] <Randomouscrap98> There are 4 piles; one for each suit [03:03] <Randomouscrap98> So, if you see any aces, you can tap them to send them to one of the 4 "holding" piles [03:04] <Randomouscrap98> Try it out, look around for aces and tap them to make them go up to the top [03:04] <Sparkystream> ok [03:04] <Randomouscrap98> Have you found any aces? [03:04] <Sparkystream> i have 2 aces at the piles [03:04] <Pokeyoshi19> GTG, this night i improve my surprise game. Another tip: It's a "collection" game. [03:04] <Randomouscrap98> Cool poke! Have a good night [03:05] <Sparkystream> good night-yoshi [03:05] <Pokeyoshi19> Good night! Thanks [03:05] <Randomouscrap98> OK, you see how you can go through the stack at the top-left right? [03:05] <Sparkystream> yes,i found two aces in it [03:05] <Randomouscrap98> Cool. Well, you see how there are hidden cards in the 7 piles? [03:05] <Sparkystream> yeah [03:05] <Sparkystream> do i pressshortcut?it worked last time [03:05] <Randomouscrap98> You can "unhide" them by moving the card that's on top [03:05] <Randomouscrap98> No, don't use shortcut yet [03:06] <Sparkystream> oh [03:06] <Sparkystream> its just a yoshi sign [03:06] <Randomouscrap98> Tap it [03:06] <Sparkystream> i cant,when i let go of the covering card,to tap,it goes back to the pile of 7 it cam from [03:07] <Randomouscrap98> Right, you need to move them to a stack that will accept it [03:07] <Randomouscrap98> In the bottom 7 stacks, you can place a card on top of another one as long as the card below is 1 higher than the one you're dragging AND a different color [03:07] <Randomouscrap98> Let me find a picture... [03:07] <Sparkystream> ok [03:08] <Sparkystream> i put a diamond 3 under a clover 4 [03:08] <Sparkystream> ooh,i tapped a hidden card,and an ace came [03:08] <Randomouscrap98> Good! You can also move entire stacks. [03:08] <Randomouscrap98> And now you can tap that ace to send it up as well. [03:08] <Sparkystream> i did [03:08] <Randomouscrap98> Once you have an ace in a particular suit up there, you can put a 2 up there [03:08] <Randomouscrap98> Then a 3, then a 4, etc. [03:08] <Randomouscrap98> http://audio.newfreeware.com/img/scr/6-195.jpg [03:09] <Randomouscrap98> Oops [03:09] <Randomouscrap98> That's a weird solitare [03:09] <Randomouscrap98> Ignore that one [03:09] <Sparkystream> ? [03:09] <Sparkystream> [03:09] <Sparkystream> ok [03:09] <Calc84maniac> lol [03:09] <Randomouscrap98> http://imagenes.es.sftcdn.net/es/scrn/88000/88634/solitaire-greatest-hits-7.jpg [03:09] <Randomouscrap98> See how they've got a black jack on top of a red queen, then a red 10, then a black 9? [03:10] <Randomouscrap98> You can build up stacks to reveal the hidden cards underneath [03:10] <Sparkystream> ok [03:10] <Randomouscrap98> Remember, the whole point is to get all the cards up to the top. [03:10] <Randomouscrap98> If you completely empty a stack (there are no more cards), you can place a King there. [03:11] <Sparkystream> ok [03:11] <Randomouscrap98> But ONLY a King. Remember, you can move an entire stack of cards though [03:11] <Sparkystream> is the king the highest except for ace? [03:11] <Randomouscrap98> Not in Solitaire. [03:11] <Randomouscrap98> It's just the highest [03:11] <Sparkystream> oh [03:11] <Randomouscrap98> Ace is absolutely the lowest, which is why you start with that in the 4 "holding" stacks [03:11] <Calc84maniac> yeah, Ace is always lowest in Solitaire [03:11] <Sparkystream> ohhhhhhh [03:12] <Randomouscrap98> Here are the rules all laid out: http://www.wikihow.com/Play-Solitaire [03:13] <Randomouscrap98> You can skip to "Playing the Game' [03:13] <Randomouscrap98> Since the program sets up the cards for you [03:13] <Sparkystream> sry,random,i have to do hw [03:13] <Randomouscrap98> And since you're playing one card drawn, you don't flip over 3 cards from the "reserve" deck [03:13] <Randomouscrap98> No problem! [03:13] <Randomouscrap98> Use that link if you get confused [03:13] <Sparkystream> I thin i get it though [03:14] <Sparkystream> you create piles of cards [03:14] <Sparkystream> total of 52 [03:14] <Sparkystream> aces at bottom [03:14] <Randomouscrap98> Well 52 across 4 piles [03:14] <Randomouscrap98> Right [03:14] <Sparkystream> kings at top [03:14] <Randomouscrap98> Right [03:14] <Randomouscrap98> And you make alternating piles at the bottom to uncover new cards [03:14] <Randomouscrap98> But eventually you want all those lower piles to go up top [03:14] <Sparkystream> The order is Ace,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,J,Q,K [03:14] <Randomouscrap98> Yes [03:14] <Sparkystream> after a pile is cleared,a king may be placed ethere [03:15] <Randomouscrap98> Exactly [03:15] <Sparkystream> you can go through ur cards by taping the up left corner [03:15] <Lumage> And you can play it by yourself in the corner because you have no friends. I think that is why Solitaire was invented. [03:15] <Randomouscrap98> Lol that's terrible Lumage! [03:15] <Sparkystream> you may drag other cards to a pile if it is a different color,1 # lower,and a different sign [03:15] <Calc84maniac> same for a lot of video games :P [03:16] <Sparkystream> The game goes on until you have made 4 piles of aces to kings [03:16] <Sparkystream> after moving a card,below card can be used [03:16] <Sparkystream> gtg d hw [03:16] <Lumage> I know :1 [03:16] <Sparkystream> so good night [03:16] <Sparkystream> after im done,i have to go to bed [03:17] <Randomouscrap98> Good night! [03:17] <Lumage> GN Sparky! [03:17] <Sparkystream> Bye~ [03:17] <Calc84maniac> goodnight [03:17] <Sparkystream> ~Good night [03:17] <Sparkystream> ~Sparky~ [03:18] <Calc84maniac> heh, I can get up later than usual tomorrow, since my 9:30AM class was cancelled [03:18] <Lumage> dunalen deh da doo, den du dun doo la. [03:20] <Lumage> There goes my fake coffee that I only don't have so I can spit it out. [03:21] <Starwin321> Well we meet again magicarp... [03:22] <Lumage> Yes... [03:22] <Lumage> We meet again... [03:22] <Lumage> I hate coffee. [03:22] <Starwin321> Lolz [03:23] <Lumage> I don't know why my fellow 8th graders even drink it. [03:23] <Randomouscrap98> Ewww coffee. I'm 22 and I don't even drink it [03:24] <Lumage> Even if I did need the caffeine, I would drink it in the form of Sprite (no pun intended) or Fanta. [03:24] <Starwin321> Had some coffee...hated it [03:25] <Lumage> Smelled it from a distance... hated it. [03:25] <Calc84maniac> I'm with you guys [03:25] <Randomouscrap98> Oh cool, so we all hate coffee? [03:25] <Randomouscrap98> We should make a "non-coffee drinkers" club lol [03:25] <Starwin321> I think [03:26] <Calc84maniac> Lumage: You do know that Sprite is caffeine-free, right? [03:26] <Calc84maniac> possibly Fanta as well :P [03:26] <Randomouscrap98> It's a sugar rush lol, it's just as good [03:26] <Calc84maniac> true [03:26] <Lumage> Oh. It's all the same to me. [03:26] <Lumage> We don't know if coinz drinks coffee! [03:27] <Calc84maniac> TobuKatsu probably does [03:27] <Calc84maniac> * Calc84maniac runs [03:27] <Starwin321> Coinz has been on but off all day... [03:27] <Randomouscrap98> Lol calc [03:27] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hi [03:28] <GimmeMoreCoinz> caught a glimpse of coffee.. [03:28] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yes i drink it [03:28] <Starwin321> Yo [03:28] <Lumage> NOOOOOOOOOOOO [03:28] <Starwin321> BOO [03:28] <GimmeMoreCoinz> because [03:28] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I live in canad and we have a tim horton's here [03:28] <GimmeMoreCoinz> canada [03:29] <GimmeMoreCoinz> ok more than one. but in my town a single one [03:29] <Lumage> I have to go soon. [03:29] <Calc84maniac> Dr Pepper is the true intellectual's drink of choice [03:29] <GimmeMoreCoinz> k [03:30] <Randomouscrap98> Lol what is it with Dr. Pepper? [03:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I have some in the fridge thanks for reminidng me. though that stuff gives me headaches. [03:30] <Starwin321> Aw.. [03:30] <Randomouscrap98> All my smart friends drink it... I mean seriously lol [03:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> if I have too much. [03:30] <Calc84maniac> Steins;Gate reference :D [03:30] <Lumage> The secret ingredient in it is Pepsi. [03:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hacking to the gate stein's gate ost is relaly good [03:30] <Lumage> And the secret ingredient in Pepsi is Coke [03:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> lol lol lol lol [03:31] <GimmeMoreCoinz> the secret ingredient in coke is diet coke [03:31] <Calc84maniac> the visual novel OP is really good as well [03:31] <Randomouscrap98> It's sodo-ception [03:31] <Lumage> And the secret ingredient in Coke is battery acid. [03:31] <Randomouscrap98> Lol *soda-ception [03:31] <Calc84maniac> (which has an MML version in my 8-bit port ;D) [03:31] <GimmeMoreCoinz> lol coke was originally meant to be a medication :/ [03:31] <Calc84maniac> didn't coke originally have cocaine? [03:32] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yes [03:32] <GimmeMoreCoinz> so if you find an old bottle of coke that pre dates the ilegalization of it [03:32] <GimmeMoreCoinz> you'll know... [03:32] <GimmeMoreCoinz> what cocaine feels like. [03:32] <Starwin321> Now I don't want coke... [03:32] <GimmeMoreCoinz> that is if you rbrave enough to rink it [03:32] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I wouldn't. [03:33] <Lumage> PRINT "GOODBYE WORLD" [03:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I just cooked a grilled cheese sandwhich using cheese that's probably almost three weeks. now the wait to see if i get food poisoning or not. the cheese didn't feel or taste off. [03:33] <Randomouscrap98> Ehhh cheese is already curdled milk anyway [03:33] <Randomouscrap98> You'll be fine [03:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> woo. [03:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> * GimmeMoreCoinz notes I do keep my food well to [03:34] <Randomouscrap98> I just ate 7 day old bread [03:34] <GimmeMoreCoinz> food safe and all that =p [03:34] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh wow random [03:34] <GimmeMoreCoinz> XP [03:34] <Randomouscrap98> Oops, I didn't elaborate. French bread (shudder) [03:34] <Randomouscrap98> Which goes stale immediately [03:34] <GimmeMoreCoinz> we need a cooking recipe book for petit computer [03:34] <Randomouscrap98> Err I have a few recipes [03:34] <GimmeMoreCoinz> i'd like to learn to cook fresh bread some day [03:34] <Starwin321> How do you guys make the faunt different? [03:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> dont know I'm not the one to ask i'd imagine you replace the default one [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 1 cup brown sugar [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 1/2 cup white sugar [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 1 1/2 cups flour [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 1 tsp baking soda [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 1 tsp cinamon [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 3 cups oats [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> chocolate chips [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 1 1/4 cups butter (2 1/2 sticks of butter) [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 1 egg [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 1 tsp vanila [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> Mix all dry ingredients [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> Mix wet ingredients with fork [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> Stir with spoon [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> Mix with hands [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> 375 8 minutes or longer! 10 minutes for bigger cookies [03:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> ooh cookies [03:35] <Randomouscrap98> (Chocolate chip oatmeal cookies) [03:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yumm [03:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> i'm writing this down [03:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> my roomies wont buy flour doesn't cook enough with it :/ [03:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> so i'll have to get some. yay [03:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> xD [03:36] <Randomouscrap98> Lol I didn't have flour for the longest time either [03:36] <Randomouscrap98> Then I made French onion soup [03:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> the fear of mites [03:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> OMG I love french onion soup [03:37] <Randomouscrap98> Lol me too! [03:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> i was hungry all day 0_0 munching on dry cereal etc. [03:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> not so much there isn't food. but picky. today. [03:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and lazy -.- [03:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> that and i'm not sure if my friend sok with me using his ground meat [03:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> friends* otherwise I would have coooked up spaghetti with oniones. [03:38] <Randomouscrap98> Sok? [03:38] <GimmeMoreCoinz> friends ok* [03:38] <Randomouscrap98> Ahh, I had spaghetti recently! I used 3 month old garlic! [03:38] <GimmeMoreCoinz> mm yum xD [03:39] <Starwin321> I have nothing interesting to say....PEACE! [03:39] <Randomouscrap98> It was in the fridge, so it wasn't too bad [03:39] <Randomouscrap98> Bye! [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> Oh, do you like fudge? [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> I love this fudge recipe: [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> 2 cups sugar [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> 1/2 cup milk [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> 1 stick butter [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> 1/4 cup corn syrup [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> 2 ounces unsweetened baker's squares [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> 1/4 teaspoon salt [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> Melt on low heat until consistent. [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> Gradually turn up heat to medium high (increment every 30 seconds or so). [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> Bring to rolling boil for 1 minute. [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> Remove from heat and stir until lukewarm. [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> Add 1 tsp vanila, stir until like frosting. [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> Pour into buttered pan. [03:40] <Randomouscrap98> (refrigerate) [03:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> ooh [03:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> i dont bake laot [03:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> alot* [03:41] <Randomouscrap98> It's not baking [03:41] <Randomouscrap98> Fudge is made on the stove lol [03:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'll have to try this :D [03:42] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Randomous do you have terraria? or steam? [03:43] <Randomouscrap98> I do, but I've played terraria so much, I just can't play it anymore [03:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> awww [03:43] <Randomouscrap98> I've put... let's see [03:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I was going to invite you to play with me and somone else. [03:43] <Randomouscrap98> 600 hours. I'm really sorry! [03:44] <Randomouscrap98> I must have beat it at least 20 times [03:44] <Randomouscrap98> I think I've done a run with every class/weapon [03:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> my timer reset when i installed steam again this year. I have 269 hours. [03:44] <Randomouscrap98> Lol wow, you've played it a lot too! [03:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> mhm [03:44] <Calc84maniac> I have 0 hours! [03:44] <Randomouscrap98> HEY YOU [03:44] <Randomouscrap98> GO PLAY IT NOW lol [03:45] <Randomouscrap98> Seriously, it's an excellent game. If you have someone to play it with. [03:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I stopped for a long time. then i got into minecraft for like 8 months. it wasted my life. so i stopped. then i got into programming again then back to console games (retro) and then back to more complex games now I just rotate or play whatever. [03:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and yeah it i sa good game if you have somone to play it with. [03:46] <Randomouscrap98> I should really finish up my contest entry [03:47] <Randomouscrap98> It's so close to being playable (not finished), but it's just so much work [03:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> okay what are you making anyways? i dont know much about the ocontext and I dont think I'd have anything to offer this time either. [03:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> contest* [03:47] <Randomouscrap98> It's called "Pixel Machine". It's an arcade shooter/split concentration game [03:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I began using notepad++ but it's kind of a pain i the but tot transfer between the sd and back to the pc when coding and then fixing bugs. I'm not good enough yet with ptc to have a bugless qr code generated. [03:48] <Sparkystream> Good Night Everybody,I finished my math,and will find a way to do vocab, [03:48] <Randomouscrap98> Good night! [03:48] <Calc84maniac> Petit Computer does seem like it would excel at arcade shooters, heh [03:48] <Randomouscrap98> Yes it does! [03:49] <Calc84maniac> especially considering... two of the sample programs are shooters? [03:49] <Randomouscrap98> Man, I can process like 50 sprites [03:49] <Randomouscrap98> Using SPHIT and stuff [03:49] <GimmeMoreCoinz> wow [03:49] <Randomouscrap98> You're not going to have 50 things coming at you at once though... it's just too hard lol [03:49] <Calc84maniac> I wonder if it could handle a "bullet hell" type shooter [03:49] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeah no kidding. [03:49] <Randomouscrap98> Especially when your concentration is split [03:50] <GimmeMoreCoinz> randomous do you use petit computer to make your sprites or do you do then on th epc using like say gimp or something [03:50] <GimmeMoreCoinz> what do you use to make your sprites? [03:50] <Randomouscrap98> I use CHRED (so yes) [03:50] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I kind of want to make a really huge game that's what i'm aiming with petit smash. [03:50] <Randomouscrap98> I used CHRED to make all of Village's like 400+ sprites [03:50] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I wanna make a huge rpg to where the map files are stored externally [03:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> wow randomous [03:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> how did you get the palletes to change [03:51] <Randomouscrap98> I found out CHRSET is super powerful [03:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> you did the pallete editing yourself? [03:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> that's neat. [03:51] <Randomouscrap98> You mean the custom colors? [03:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeah [03:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I mean i find it teious [03:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> tedious [03:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I prefer using images etc. [03:51] <Randomouscrap98> I actually implemented it quite interestingly (and by that I mean poorly lol) [03:52] <GimmeMoreCoinz> lol [03:52] <Randomouscrap98> I have a data section (go look near the bottom) which gives a color number, color set (SP/BG/GRP), and the HEX color. [03:52] <Randomouscrap98> And it ends with -1 [03:53] <Randomouscrap98> So whenever I want to define a new color, I just add some extra data [03:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh cool. [03:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> then how do you use those colors? [03:58] <Randomouscrap98> They're just set [03:58] <Randomouscrap98> I read the data, and set the colors accordingly [03:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Part of me doesn't want to make a game from scratch and just heavily modify your village game instead. I mean change how it handles maps. etc. [03:58] <Randomouscrap98> Look around for RESTORES in Village [03:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> okay [03:58] <Randomouscrap98> Sure, no problem [03:58] <Randomouscrap98> And look for "COLSET" within the restores [03:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> xD okay [03:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> neat. [03:59] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm very interested more so in project specific stuff. actually one of my goals is to make it really easy for people to mod spetit smash and add custom characters.. [03:59] <GimmeMoreCoinz> petit smash* [03:59] <Randomouscrap98> That's cool, but really hard [04:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Yeah it is because of collision handling custom distances, custom hitbox. What I think might happen is the characters stats will be changable/hackable. and [04:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> one could choose which graphics and sounds to replace. [04:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> so base a character off an already existing one and modify things like movement speed, max jump height, jump delay, fall speed, max fall speed, weight, knockback resist, etc. [04:04] <Calc84maniac> hmm, I wonder if there are any games that made good use of panning for sound effects [04:07] <GimmeMoreCoinz> goblin armies are annoying [04:09] <GimmeMoreCoinz> randomous can you tell me your process for making a game for petit compute rwhat's your steps? [04:09] <Randomouscrap98> Hmm, well first, I come up with the concept [04:09] <Randomouscrap98> I make sure that I fully realize exactly how I want the game to be. Maybe it's not "balanced" or anything, but all the big details are set [04:10] <Randomouscrap98> Then I jump into making the core mechanic. [04:10] <Randomouscrap98> For instance, in Village, I started on the Village generation just so that I could have a file to work with [04:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh ok [04:11] <Randomouscrap98> THen I worked on drawing cells and transitioning between them. I didn't have a character yet, but I wanted to make sure that drawing a cell was as easy as calling a function [04:11] <Randomouscrap98> Next I worked on movement. This is all "core mechanics" to me, so that's what I worked on first [04:11] <Randomouscrap98> (core mechanics, not movement) [04:12] <Randomouscrap98> In order to break up the monotony, I also work intermittently on graphics [04:12] <Randomouscrap98> And I just repeat the "graphics/mechanics" cycle [04:13] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh ok. [04:13] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Would you be willing to help me improve on pett smash later? just the way the code is put together? that is if you have time. [04:13] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it's not too far along yet that it's a mess. XD [04:14] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Maybe even just help me with some functions :3 [04:14] <Randomouscrap98> If you've already got the code all put together, it's going to be hard to take it apart and change the way it works [04:14] <Randomouscrap98> I'd keep it the way it is, really. Unless it just totally doesn't work or it's really slow [04:15] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Oh yeah. [04:17] <Randomouscrap98> OK, I have to go. I'm really sorry [04:17] <Randomouscrap98> Bye everyone (or just you two really, the bot doesn't count) [04:18] <Calc84maniac> poor bot :( [04:18] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yeah, that's right. Feel sorry for me [04:19] <Calc84maniac> lol [04:19] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol just kidding [04:14] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Maybe even just help me with some functions :3 [04:14] <Randomouscrap98> If you've already got the code all put together, it's going to be hard to take it apart and change the way it works [04:14] <Randomouscrap98> I'd keep it the way it is, really. Unless it just totally doesn't work or it's really slow [04:15] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Oh yeah. [04:17] <Randomouscrap98> OK, I have to go. I'm really sorry [04:17] <Randomouscrap98> Bye everyone (or just you two really, the bot doesn't count) [04:18] <Calc84maniac> poor bot :( [04:18] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yeah, that's right. Feel sorry for me [04:19] <Calc84maniac> lol [04:19] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol just kidding [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> Bot is testing. [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> Testing [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> I will continue testing. [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> Testing [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> Testing [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> More testing [04:18] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yeah, that's right. Feel sorry for me [04:19] <Calc84maniac> lol [04:19] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol just kidding [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> Bot is testing. [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> Testing [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> I will continue testing. [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> Testing [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> Testing [04:25] <PTC Wikia Bot> More testing [04:26] <GimmeMoreCoinz> ok bye. :3 [04:29] <PTC Wikia Bot> Testing [04:29] <PTC Wikia Bot> And more [04:29] <PTC Wikia Bot> Goodness, do I really need to test so often? [04:29] <PTC Wikia Bot> It's test... it's a test [04:30] <Calc84maniac> Here, have an A+ [04:30] <Calc84maniac> and a gold star [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yes! [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> I already have a gold star [04:30] <Calc84maniac> oh right :P [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hmm, the interval thing just doesn't work at all. [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> I don't know what to do. The bot isn't supposed to update this frequently [04:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> o.0 [04:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hmmm [04:29] <PTC Wikia Bot> It's test... it's a test [04:30] <Calc84maniac> Here, have an A+ [04:30] <Calc84maniac> and a gold star [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yes! [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> I already have a gold star [04:30] <Calc84maniac> oh right :P [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hmm, the interval thing just doesn't work at all. [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> I don't know what to do. The bot isn't supposed to update this frequently [04:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> o.0 [04:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hmmm [04:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> OK, so it's apparently set at "hourly" updates [04:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> I don't buy that at all though [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> I already have a gold star [04:30] <Calc84maniac> oh right :P [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hmm, the interval thing just doesn't work at all. [04:30] <PTC Wikia Bot> I don't know what to do. The bot isn't supposed to update this frequently [04:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> o.0 [04:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hmmm [04:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> OK, so it's apparently set at "hourly" updates [04:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> I don't buy that at all though [04:34] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hmm [04:34] <PTC Wikia Bot> Well, it looks like it's working. But an hour is kind of a long time... [04:38] <PTC Wikia Bot> OK, 5 minutes. And this is a test [04:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> And I'm testing some more [04:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> Goodness, it's a good thing everyone's away [04:40] <Calc84maniac> I'm too busy MMLing to care :P [04:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol good! [04:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> My MML skills are all right. They're nowhere near yours... but they suffice lol. [04:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> Jeez, I'm a bot. I should be able to make flawless MML [04:43] <Calc84maniac> if you're talking about the Steins;Gate 8-bit MML, it actually helped a lot that the original music for the game was in (a slightly different variant of) MML [04:43] <PTC Wikia Bot> It doesn't matter, you made that wav thing [04:43] <Calc84maniac> ah, true enough :P [04:46] <Calc84maniac> I did make some very nice Chip's Challenge MML, but that was lost with the rest of my data :/ [04:47] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'm sorry [04:47] <PTC Wikia Bot> To hear that [04:48] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hmm, I just bought an 85 song soundtrack on Bandcamp. And now I'm thinking about downloading them all as FLAC... [04:48] <PTC Wikia Bot> This might take a while (if you know what FLAC is) [04:48] <Calc84maniac> yeah, lossless compression [04:48] <PTC Wikia Bot> Ehh, I'll just leave the download open all night [04:49] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'd rather have lossless and wait than mp3 and not [04:49] <PTC Wikia Bot> Not that I'm an audiophile or anything lol. It's just that if I have a lossless file, I can always make lossy versions later [04:50] <Calc84maniac> hmm, you know, I've had some small experience with MML in ages long past :P [04:51] <Calc84maniac> there was this one calculator app that gave some extra functionality to BASIC programs [04:51] <Calc84maniac> and one of the commands was playing beeps with MML [04:51] <PTC Wikia Bot> Really? [04:51] <PTC Wikia Bot> What was it? [04:51] <Calc84maniac> Omnicalc [04:52] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh yeHa [04:52] <Calc84maniac> it was only one channel of sound, though [04:52] <Calc84maniac> and it halted the entire program while it played :P [04:52] <PTC Wikia Bot> I used that for lower case letters... I think. Isn't that the program that gave you those? [04:52] <Calc84maniac> yeah, one of a few [04:52] <Calc84maniac> it was actually a built-in OS feature, but there was no way to unlock it normally [04:53] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol really? It halted the entire program? Well, I guess that makes sense... but still [04:53] <Calc84maniac> well, the timing for the sound output took all the CPU time, heh [04:54] <Calc84maniac> with the newer calculator hardware, however (TI-83+SE and all TI-84+ models), there are some more accurate timers that can be used to play sound while other stuff is going on [04:54] <GimmeMoreCoinz> that's really interesting. [04:54] <PTC Wikia Bot> I remember. I just never used sound lol [04:54] <Calc84maniac> and of course, you have to plug in headphones/speakers to the data port :P [04:55] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol "Woah, hear those bytes!" [04:56] <Calc84maniac> at one point I worked on a 4-channel sound engine that would take up about 60% of CPU time [04:56] <Calc84maniac> effectively reducing the speed to that of the TI-83+ [04:56] <Calc84maniac> so I could potentially make a game designed for TI-83+ speed but also have sound output on the newer models [04:57] <PTC Wikia Bot> But now you have Petit Computer [04:57] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol jk [04:59] <Calc84maniac> well, Petit Computer is sort of taking the place of my calculator projects at the moment :P [04:59] <PTC Wikia Bot> It does reach a larger audience (well, sort of) [04:59] <PTC Wikia Bot> And it's more powerful [04:59] <PTC Wikia Bot> And it's still BASIC [04:59] <PTC Wikia Bot> [04:59] <PTC Wikia Bot> And it's in full color [04:59] <Calc84maniac> well, on calculators these days I program in assembly [04:59] <PTC Wikia Bot> And you get tools to help you [05:00] <Calc84maniac> also there's a new color TI-84+ :D [05:00] <PTC Wikia Bot> Ewww [05:00] <PTC Wikia Bot> (I mean assembly, not the color TI) [05:00] <Calc84maniac> ...which is horribly slow because they didn't upgrade anything along with the screen (which has like 10x the pixels of the black-and-white version) [05:01] <PTC Wikia Bot> I've worked with assembly to a ridiculous extent, and I still wouldn't ever want to work with it in the real world [05:01] <PTC Wikia Bot> Jeez, that must be ridiculously slow [05:01] <Calc84maniac> I'm highly considering porting Steins;Gate 8-bit to it as well [05:01] <PTC Wikia Bot> That would be cool. And slow [05:01] <Calc84maniac> well, the polygon renderer might be faster than the one I'm using in PTC :P [05:02] <Calc84maniac> though I can't say for sure since I haven't coded it yet [05:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yeah, but the time it takes to program it in assembly would offset the time people play the game [05:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> ALL the time lol. [05:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> (You know I'm kidding, I hope) [05:02] <Calc84maniac> heh, well, there is some truth in that [05:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> Have you ever coded in MIPS assembly? [05:03] <Calc84maniac> nope, but I'm a little familiar with it [05:03] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hmm, how familiar is TI assembly to MIPS? [05:03] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol similar [05:03] <Calc84maniac> not very, it's a z80 [05:03] <Calc84maniac> as in, real 8-bit [05:03] <PTC Wikia Bot> OHHH that's right. That's why people were/are so in love with it [05:04] <PTC Wikia Bot> I forgot about that [05:04] <PTC Wikia Bot> Has anyone written a compiler for it? [05:05] <Calc84maniac> not really a C compiler (there's a generic Small C compiler for z80 but it probably wouldn't work well on this platform) [05:05] <PTC Wikia Bot> I should write one. I've written plenty of compilers before [05:05] <Calc84maniac> but there's a popular compiled language that came up in the last couple years that a lot of people use to make games now [05:05] <PTC Wikia Bot> I've even written a full-C compiler (C isn't really that big of a language) [05:05] <Calc84maniac> called Axe [05:06] <PTC Wikia Bot> But you could code in C and have it compiled straight to z80! Wouldn't that be cool? [05:06] <PTC Wikia Bot> What's Axe like? [05:06] <Calc84maniac> it takes a lot of cues from TI-Basic (it even uses the same editor) but it's a bit more low-level in nature [05:06] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hmm [05:06] <Calc84maniac> and it was made to work efficiently for z80 [05:07] <Calc84maniac> all math is 16-bit [05:07] <PTC Wikia Bot> Cool! [05:07] <Calc84maniac> and it has built-in sprite drawing routines and such [05:07] <PTC Wikia Bot> Man, now I want to write a compiler [05:08] <Calc84maniac> the main problem with C for z80 is lack of easy stack-based variables [05:08] <PTC Wikia Bot> One of the main problems would be managing memory [05:08] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol we were thinking the exact same thing apparently [05:08] <Calc84maniac> putting variables on the stack bloats code quickly [05:08] <Calc84maniac> it's a lot easier to work with static/global variables [05:08] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yeah, and without a proper architecture for handling stack operations, it wouldn't really work well [05:09] <PTC Wikia Bot> Bah, oh well [05:11] <PTC Wikia Bot> After getting back to functional/object oriented programming, it's like taking in a breath of fresh air. I keep saying to myself "I can do THAT? WOW!" I mean, it's not like I forgot... I just kind of did lol [05:13] <PTC Wikia Bot> But I keep writing "If ... Then" in my C++ programs lol [05:13] <Calc84maniac> for some reason I'm drawn to these limited systems, just to see what I can do with them... heh [05:14] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh, me too. I'm not actually interested in making games for a powerful system (even though I've made games in C#/C++ lol) [05:14] <Calc84maniac> hmm... portamento is weird in PTC [05:14] <PTC Wikia Bot> Is it? [05:14] <PTC Wikia Bot> It basically combines the lengths of the two notes it connects [05:15] <PTC Wikia Bot> You can hold the lower or upper note with an &amp; [05:15] <PTC Wikia Bot> (But you probably already knew that) [05:15] <Calc84maniac> I dunno, something seems off [05:15] <PTC Wikia Bot> How do you expect it to behave? [05:15] <Calc84maniac> like, if I don't put a length on the upper note then it has a length of 0 [05:15] <Calc84maniac> if I explicitly put a length it gets held for that length... I think [05:16] <PTC Wikia Bot> It always has a length of 0 really. It stops as soon as it hits the top note [05:16] <PTC Wikia Bot> Doesn't it? [05:16] <PTC Wikia Bot> Changing the length of the top note only increases the slowness of the portamento [05:16] <PTC Wikia Bot> I think... [05:17] <Calc84maniac> hmmm [05:17] <PTC Wikia Bot> Just connect the portamento to a tie to have a held note [05:17] <PTC Wikia Bot> lol "with" a tie [05:18] <Calc84maniac> well, at the very least it's different than whatever MML variant I'm converting from [05:18] <PTC Wikia Bot> That stinks. Write a C/C++/Perl/Python/whatever program to convert it [05:18] <Calc84maniac> nah, gotta do this by hand :P [05:19] <PTC Wikia Bot> Well, good luck then [05:19] <PTC Wikia Bot> Why did I only pick C/P lettered languages? [05:20] <Calc84maniac> well, C/C++/Python are my strong languages anyway [05:20] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol woo, I hit the nail on the head [05:20] <Calc84maniac> my CHIP-8 to SMILEBASIC recompiler is in C, heh [05:21] <PTC Wikia Bot> What's that? [05:21] <PTC Wikia Bot> CHIP-8 [05:21] <Calc84maniac> it's an old VM [05:21] <Calc84maniac> which had a number of games written for it [05:21] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh cool [05:21] <PTC Wikia Bot> Wait, does it work? [05:22] <Calc84maniac> it's meant to be interpreted, but SMILEBASIC is a bit slow to do that so I tried to make a static recompiler [05:22] <Calc84maniac> it seems to work fairly well [05:22] <PTC Wikia Bot> Cool! Have you released any of the games? [05:22] <Calc84maniac> nope, maybe I should make a game pack sometime [05:22] <PTC Wikia Bot> Totally [05:23] <PTC Wikia Bot> I love faking 3D effects (totally random) [05:23] <Calc84maniac> it has a weird button layout, but I guess I could represent it on the touch screen [05:23] <Calc84maniac> and have real buttons assignable [05:23] <PTC Wikia Bot> Assignable buttons would be cool. And not too hard, really [05:23] <Calc84maniac> (controls vary from game to game) [05:23] <Calc84maniac> the controls are a 4x4 grid of buttons labeled 0-9 and A-F, lol [05:24] <PTC Wikia Bot> Ewww, [05:24] <PTC Wikia Bot> You're right, that's really a touch screen [05:24] <PTC Wikia Bot> *thing [05:25] <Calc84maniac> here's one of the games I made into a QR a while back: http://i.imgur.com/YHS9zJ1.png [05:25] <Calc84maniac> (beware, it's annoyingly hard :P ) [05:26] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol "Even I don't understand it" [05:26] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'll let you know when I try it (remind me if I forget) [05:26] <Calc84maniac> well, pretty much. It's basically gibberish, lol [05:26] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol but it's a good game? [05:26] <Calc84maniac> one of the better ones, I guess [05:26] <Calc84maniac> also, it's a Super-CHIP8 game [05:26] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol wow, and the code is giberish [05:27] <Calc84maniac> which has double the resolution of normal CHIP-8 games [05:28] <PTC Wikia Bot> Is that saying much? [05:28] <PTC Wikia Bot> The double resolution, I mean [05:29] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh hey, do you like Electro/Dance music? [05:29] <PTC Wikia Bot> (Totally random, I know) [05:30] <Calc84maniac> more or less [05:31] <PTC Wikia Bot> Here's a limited time offer on a really large selection of pretty varied music: http://jessevalentinemusic.bandcamp.com/album/super-epic-album-collection-pack-85-songs [05:31] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'm not the artist lol, but he's got enough variance that you're bound to find something you like [05:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol I sound like I'm advertising it or something. I guess I am... I just think it's a good deal. [05:33] <PTC Wikia Bot> It's EXTREMELY varied, so don't judge the album based on the first few songs [05:33] <Calc84maniac> eh, I don't listen to music enough to justify buying albums [05:33] <PTC Wikia Bot> That's OK [05:33] <PTC Wikia Bot> Sorry for bugging you with it lol [05:34] <Calc84maniac> no problem :P [05:35] <PTC Wikia Bot> So this MML you're working on... is it for a game? [05:36] <Calc84maniac> yeah, the next chapter of Steins;Gate 8-bit [05:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> Wow, cool! [05:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hey, how do you design the 3D objects? Do you have a program that converts 3D images into a series of points? [05:36] <Calc84maniac> it's almost ready, just have to finish this BGM and convert a couple of CGs [05:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> Like a 3D designer? [05:37] <Calc84maniac> actually, the CGs in the game are in SVG format [05:37] <Calc84maniac> in the original game, that is [05:37] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh cool, so you just draw them in some external program [05:37] <Calc84maniac> so I wrote a program that extracts all the raw polygon and line data and puts it in my own format in GRPs [05:37] <Calc84maniac> which is then read by my engine [05:37] <PTC Wikia Bot> That's pretty cool [05:38] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'm guessing you perform some sort of compression for colors [05:38] <Calc84maniac> I usually make some manual modifications to the original vector graphics to reduce size and draw time, though [05:38] <Calc84maniac> nah, I'm just using 8-bit colors [05:38] <PTC Wikia Bot> In the SVG file? Cool [05:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> But do the colors in the SVG file match up with the GRP colors? Or do you convert those too? [05:39] <Calc84maniac> yeah, my main modifications are to combine the lines and polygons by turning them into polygons with outlines [05:39] <Calc84maniac> though that doesn't work in all cases [05:39] <Calc84maniac> I just take the closest color to the SVG [05:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh, so the converter chooses? [05:39] <Calc84maniac> which is pretty much how it works in the game, where the emulated machines have like 8 or 15 colors to work with [05:39] <Calc84maniac> yeah [05:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> Did you program all the GRP colors into the converter then? [05:40] <Calc84maniac> yeah [05:40] <PTC Wikia Bot> Which I guess you could have gotten from PTC utilities? [05:40] <PTC Wikia Bot> Or the Manual lol [05:40] <Calc84maniac> I believe I did get them from PTCUtilities [05:40] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol man, I'm totally psychic [05:40] <Calc84maniac> (which was the easiest way to extract the actual colors) [05:40] <PTC Wikia Bot> And full of myself, apparently [05:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> Wow, that's a really cool process [05:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Finally caught up to the chat. omg. [05:41] <Calc84maniac> my converter also has a renderer built in, so I can make sure I'm not making any mistakes as I'm editing [05:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hey Gimme [05:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I wanted to comment way earlier. I have a headache now though from trying to read so much. xP [05:41] <Calc84maniac> though it's a little less accurate than the PTC renderer, lol [05:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh awesome! [05:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> [05:42] <PTC Wikia Bot> Eh, as long as it's close enough [05:42] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'm sorry Coinz! [05:42] <GimmeMoreCoinz> playing terraria while having two roomies talk to you. while trying to take out the garbage and eat an a&amp;w burger is hARD [05:42] <PTC Wikia Bot> I concur [05:42] <GimmeMoreCoinz> while in a skype call with somone else playing the same game [05:42] <PTC Wikia Bot> *agree [05:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> not to mention :/ and ppl wonder why I get overloaded [05:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> like omg i took my headphones off to just read something for a sec my roomie began talking to me omg OVERLOAD xP [05:43] <PTC Wikia Bot> Just take a break [05:43] <PTC Wikia Bot> I've been taking a 6 hour break lol. [05:43] <Calc84maniac> ERR: OVERFLOW [05:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> LOL that's why I took my headphones off [05:43] <PTC Wikia Bot> Well, except for cooking dinner [05:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> to have quiet and read the chat :/ [05:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> then.. bam oromie begins talking to me [05:44] <PTC Wikia Bot> At least your roommate waits until you have your headphones off to talk [05:44] <PTC Wikia Bot> Mine just bowls right over whatever I'm listening to [05:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and while I was talking to my friend earlier my romie would keep saying stuff to me to and i had to listen to two people and keepin saying hang on to both of them XP [05:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> lol [05:44] <PTC Wikia Bot> And sometimes it's audiobooks. I have to tell him "Listen, that's kind of rude" [05:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> ughh [05:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> mine understand [05:45] <PTC Wikia Bot> I keep forgetting words! it's "an" audiobook, not "it's audiobooks" lol [05:46] <PTC Wikia Bot> Well anyway, I should really take a shower. Thanks for telling me about your game/converter Calc! Thanks for our chat GimmeMoreCoinz [05:47] <Calc84maniac> cya [05:47] <PTC Wikia Bot> Bye [05:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> np bye. ^&gt;^ [05:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> sorry I didn't talk more. [05:48] <PTC Wikia Bot> NP [05:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> ^.^ [06:31] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Hi [06:44] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Hello [06:45] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Hey it's you! Didn't you make the Minecraft DS? [06:48] <IAmAPerson620> yep [06:48] <IAmAPerson620> sorry for not responding [06:48] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> It's fine [06:48] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> BTW [06:48] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> It's kind of buggy [06:48] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> xD [06:48] <IAmAPerson620> any major ones (besides the one where you can run through blocks)? [06:49] <IAmAPerson620> i can post my buglog so far [06:49] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> idk I thought it would be 2D like Terraria [06:49] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Well [06:49] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> The block color is black [06:49] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> but I'm guessing [06:49] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> that was intended [06:50] <IAmAPerson620> huh? [06:50] <IAmAPerson620> you didnt get all the files [06:50] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> No [06:50] <IAmAPerson620> there are 10 different blocks in all [06:50] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> It said missing file [06:50] <IAmAPerson620> with different textures [06:50] <IAmAPerson620> yea [06:51] <IAmAPerson620> you didnt get the GRP:MCDS [06:51] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> i scanned the codes [06:51] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> might be a bug [06:51] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> I have a question [06:51] <IAmAPerson620> yea? [06:51] <IAmAPerson620> and i know its not a bug [06:51] <IAmAPerson620> no other ppl have had probs [06:51] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> I'm developing a Text Adventure [06:51] <IAmAPerson620> mm hmm? [06:51] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> and I don't know how to make it so you can choose [06:52] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Ex: [06:52] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Go to the village or the desert? [06:52] <IAmAPerson620> http://i.imgur.com/pwjud39.png [06:52] <IAmAPerson620> Scan these to fix the blocks [06:52] <IAmAPerson620> and for your question [06:53] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Yeah i need the code to be able to choose [06:53] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> i already got this and looked at the sourcecode (it has hints): [06:54] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Text Adventure Engine [06:55] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Can you help me? [06:55] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> man [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> @start [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> print"desert or grassland" [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> print"1 or 2" [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> input option [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> if option==1 then goto @desert [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> if option==2 then goto @grass [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> print"oops! you didnt choose 1 or 2!" [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> goto @start [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> @desert [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> print"you chose desert" [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> wait 180 [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> end [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> @grass [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> print"you chose grassland" [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> wait 180 [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> end [06:56] <IAmAPerson620> i can also post the compact and more proffesional code if you want, but its a little more complex [06:57] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> I'll try it out hold on [06:58] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> i type in "INPUT OPTION"? [06:59] <IAmAPerson620> yes [06:59] <IAmAPerson620> INPUT OPTION [06:59] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> Just type all that into the sourcecode? [06:59] <IAmAPerson620> yep [07:00] <IAmAPerson620> all of it [07:00] <KeyOfDestinyRoxasXIII> okay xD [07:01] <IAmAPerson620> thats not a lot at all [07:01] <IAmAPerson620> Village is 5000+ lines [07:01] <IAmAPerson620> MegaMan2 is about twice that size [07:01] <IAmAPerson620> my first text adventure had 1200+ lines [07:02] <IAmAPerson620> but Minecraft DS is extremely compact for what it does, just barely over 1000 lines