Petit Computer Wiki:Chat/Logs/1 November 2013

 [01:20]  who's aorund on halloween [01:20]  xD [01:20]  hi [01:20]  around* [01:28]  What? [01:28]  Not many. [01:28]  Ragequit MM2 ptc yet? [01:29]  yeah long time ago xD [01:29]  spikes are mean. [01:29]  XD [01:29]  i'm trying to figure out how to get tight controls in petit smash bros [01:29]  because after I finish petit smash [01:30]  I'll be making an even better fighting game and maybe I can get twin to help out because he's got his AOTTG thing going and his experience with physics is helpful plus now he's improving as a coder. [01:30]  But not unresponsive right? [01:30]  tight.. [01:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> look at the controls in street fighter 3 alpha [01:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> something along those lines. [01:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> tight timing, tight controls, and sort of also a better collision and frame based system. [01:30] <Lumage> Just a second lemme fire up an emulator [01:32] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I think i'll make Nyan cat a playable character in petit smash bros!! [01:32] <Lumage> I don't have any street fighter... X-men vs. Street Fighter. [01:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> k hold on [01:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7hkwbKmBM [01:34] <GimmeMoreCoinz> controls so tight you could do this type of countering on the second of the next frame. [01:34] <GimmeMoreCoinz> madness tight controls [01:35] <Lumage> And... I'm K.Oed [01:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> XD [01:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> you can see why petit smash bros is taking so long now... [01:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it needs to be perfect. [01:36] <Lumage> I don't like traditional fighting games... [01:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVEvfw7_dbQ [01:37] <Lumage> Besides, female character design choice... do I even have to elaborate? [01:40] <GimmeMoreCoinz> what do you mean [01:40] <BrianXP7> *pop* [01:40] <Lumage> Hello. [01:40] <BrianXP7> hi [01:42] <Lumage> That is pretty nice playing, wait, It doesn't look very diffetent than any other fighting game I've seen. [01:42] <TwinArmageddonz> hi [01:42] <BrianXP7> hi [01:42] <Lumage> Hi [01:42] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hi twin [01:42] <BrianXP7> and now we wait for the huge crowd that'll join [01:43] <BrianXP7> coinz! [01:43] <TwinArmageddonz> yep [01:43] <Lumage> Yup. [01:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hi brian [01:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> why doe everyone just suddenly pile in when twins and me are in here [01:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> xD [01:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> does* [01:43] <BrianXP7> just because we saw people [01:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I wonder what randomous has been up to I see randomous in here like once a month now. [01:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh XD [01:43] <TwinArmageddonz> probably because they saw people in chat [01:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> why did you come in here twin? [01:43] <TwinArmageddonz> i looked at the people online and it was very colourful [01:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> xD [01:44] <Lumage> Twinz is a good peogrammer, people hope you will talk about PSB [01:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeap [01:44] <BrianXP7> oh, randomous is the self aware chat bot on the right sidebar [01:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> true. [01:44] <TwinArmageddonz> XD [01:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> randomous is scared to talk because everyone will jump at him xD [01:44] <BrianXP7> he's disguised as a bot! [01:44] <TwinArmageddonz> he's also very busy [01:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yep yep [01:44] <Lumage> Haha that happens. [01:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I am to I have a program I'm going to until november 20th [01:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I' so annoyed [01:44] <BrianXP7> i am too but who cares about homework? [01:44] <TwinArmageddonz> XD [01:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I went to the telus store today and tried to buy a samsung galaxy s 3 and they didn't have it, or an s2? they didn't have it.. okayyy s4?? [01:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> NOPE [01:45] <TwinArmageddonz> why do homework when you can do science [01:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> We sell MORE IPHONES they said to me. [01:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> great... [01:45] <BrianXP7> get the nexus 5 instead [01:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I want android ice cream sandwhich with atleast a 1.5 GHZ dual core [01:45] <TwinArmageddonz> get a potato phone [01:45] <BrianXP7> dont let apple fool you with their iWhatevers [01:45] <Lumage> Blech, iMobiledevices. [01:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I don't want iwhatevers xD [01:45] <BrianXP7> get it [01:45] <BrianXP7> http://www.google.com/nexus/5/ [01:46] <BrianXP7> it just launched today! [01:46] <BrianXP7> with android 4.4 kitkat [01:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> although I did recently learn that the NSA works closely with google to put NSA code into android systems. [01:46] <BrianXP7> im stall waiting for the ota update on my nexus 7 [01:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and the NSA can turn on or off remotely the mic of any phone or camera of any phone even if the phone is powered off. [01:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I can only afford to pay 200 dollars for a phone maybe less. [01:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I have poor credit so I can't get a plan. [01:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> i'd have to buy the device straight out [01:47] <Lumage> I was suggesting name but then i found out thet were already going brand-name! [01:47] <BrianXP7> its unlocked [01:47] <BrianXP7> also, its like 2.4 GHz quad core [01:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> price. [01:47] <BrianXP7> $350... [01:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I care about the price. [01:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> too high. [01:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> can't do it [01:47] <BrianXP7> ah... [01:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeah. [01:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh well.. [01:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm brainstorming on ways to basically improve petit smash bros. [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> i'm always open to ideas though. [01:48] <Lumage> Food. [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> uhm. already planned. [01:48] Hey guys [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> anything else? [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hi 5 [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> what up b [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> biatch :3 [01:48] Nothin [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> cool cool [01:48] <TwinArmageddonz> hi [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> twin [01:48] Thanks for that array tt [01:48] Tut [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I need to ask you about something. [01:48] <TwinArmageddonz> ? [01:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> np five [01:49] <Lumage> Beer, taco wagon, fork in a toaster, as usual. [01:49] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm planning another fighter when petit smash is done [01:49] <TwinArmageddonz> O.o [01:49] But I want to learn how to make map editing and stuff with arrays [01:49] <GimmeMoreCoinz> your work on attack of the titans is impressing me even though I haven't played the newest yet. [01:49] Or data [01:49] <TwinArmageddonz> o.O [01:49] <GimmeMoreCoinz> well 5lo read discostew's tutorial [01:49] Link. [01:49] <GimmeMoreCoinz> so i'm thinking next phase of my new fighter. [01:50] <GimmeMoreCoinz> twin you should help. [01:50] <GimmeMoreCoinz> with core game engine development. [01:50] do u have a link [01:50] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it might be spotty at first since our styles are different. [01:50] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'll get you one hang on 5 [01:50] Okay [01:50] <Lumage> I second that motion. [04:19] <GimmeMoreCoinz> but i might code up a good npc ai this weekend [04:20] <TwinArmageddonz> nice [04:20] <TwinArmageddonz> why is eren always capitalized? [04:20] <Lumage> Start with, what twiz has in his SB, then add randomness and movement based on damage. [04:20] <Lumage> Eren [04:21] <TwinArmageddonz> SB? [04:21] <Lumage> *twinz [04:21] <Lumage> Smash Brothers [04:21] <TwinArmageddonz> ooooooh that was rushed ai [04:22] <TwinArmageddonz> just a simple follow and an [04:22] <TwinArmageddonz> IF SPHITSP(0,5) AND RND(15)==0 THEN GOSUB @EATTACK1 [04:23] <Lumage> Yeah, but it would work for a low damage situation in game with one move. [04:25] <TwinArmageddonz> true [04:30] <Lumage> I should really go to sleep now... [04:31] <TwinArmageddonz> ok [04:32] <TwinArmageddonz> why sleep when there's still science to do? [04:35] <TwinArmageddonz> i just had an idea for aottg [04:35] <TwinArmageddonz> i could add a lock button and it locks the length of the rope, so instead of reeling it in you can swing around with it [04:38] <Lumage> Me gusta. [04:40] <TwinArmageddonz> i'll probably make it the Y button [04:41] <Lumage> I'm... going [04:41] <Lumage> T...o... [04:41] <Lumage> Sleep... now... [04:42] <TwinArmageddonz> bye [04:42] <Lumage> Bye... [04:43] <Lumage> "_" [04:47] <TwinArmageddonz> coinz are you alive [04:59] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeah i'm back form tim hortons [04:59] <GimmeMoreCoinz> hi [04:59] <GimmeMoreCoinz> from* [04:59] <GimmeMoreCoinz> what up [04:59] <GimmeMoreCoinz> twin I gotta say I think you an dI are the most dedicated programmers [04:59] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and I* [05:00] <TwinArmageddonz> O.o [05:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> On this community [05:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> well and maybe discostew [05:00] <TwinArmageddonz> yeah [05:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> he spends so much time programming he's never online. [05:00] <TwinArmageddonz> and rsndom [05:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeah randomous spends more time coding than he does coming on here [05:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm thinknig about how to improve petit smash. [05:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I know one thing it needs is tight controls, and better chracters. [05:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Here's a video [05:02] <GimmeMoreCoinz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSm2MJZJ9_A [05:02] <GimmeMoreCoinz> The controls for nintendo characters will stay the same. [05:02] <GimmeMoreCoinz> but i'm adding Ryu [05:02] <TwinArmageddonz> nice [05:05] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm actually thinking. Once the game engine's core is complete. [05:05] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Other games can be built into it and I can integrate the game's engine into the petit computer code generator project.. [05:08] <GimmeMoreCoinz> http://imgur.com/kv57k38 [05:08] <TwinArmageddonz> ? [05:08] <GimmeMoreCoinz> http://imgur.com/pWQFEpR [05:09] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Those are text for going over CPUS, and a placeholding explosion animation. [05:09] <TwinArmageddonz> oh cool [05:10] <GimmeMoreCoinz> along with mario's fireball [05:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> see i've had to slowly figure out how i'm going to handle all these in game objects. [05:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> actulaly come to think of it I did want an adventure mode as well.. [05:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I need to start with a stronger base for player controls [06:01] <TwinArmageddonz> hi [06:21] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh hai [06:21] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm making alot of progress on the design of petit smash bros. [06:22] <TwinArmageddonz> nice [06:22] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I don't think I'll go as far as to add a moves buffer. [06:22] <GimmeMoreCoinz> but I'm changing a few things around. [06:22] <TwinArmageddonz> o: [06:22] <GimmeMoreCoinz> a moves buffer would be for things like comboing [06:22] <TwinArmageddonz> i'm importing some music to aottg [06:22] <GimmeMoreCoinz> or special move execution (think like A+up +forweard kick+backwards) [06:22] <TwinArmageddonz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-z_RIgP1o [06:23] <GimmeMoreCoinz> brb [06:24] <GimmeMoreCoinz> back [06:25] <TwinArmageddonz> omg [06:25] <TwinArmageddonz> Jack OS [06:26] <TwinArmageddonz> it has 4 prg files and it literally is just a bunch of PRINT CLS and WAIT commands [06:26] <TwinArmageddonz> and in the password screen you don't even need to get the pw right [06:27] <TwinArmageddonz> and then it saves "ram" which is really just 3 empty GRP files [06:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Well Twin. [06:30] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I have some notes. [06:32] <TwinArmageddonz> notes? [06:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Check the latest comment on petit smash [06:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I've basically concluded that the game engine in order to be a proper game engine needs it's own events system. [06:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> So I'll need to construct a game event clock, and a game event cache. [06:35] <TwinArmageddonz> nice [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Along with a list of what each event is and what it does, and what it's paramters are. [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> So basically ti's like this [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> each farme [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> The functions that are needed to be called or the things that are needed to be changed are called. [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> And interpreted. [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> rather than hard coded. [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> This adds an ease of development to the project and makes it so I can really easily add new gameplay elements, characters, etc. [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> It just makes it more open. [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Also I'm thinking of an idea where the stage could even change a few times if players activate certain hidden items. [06:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> There is an idea i'm working on for a warp gate item. [06:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> It will warp both players to another stage. [06:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> which slowly falls apart [06:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> The last player standing wins. [06:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> So what I'm looking at now is pretty much, re coding all of petit smash bros at this stage. [06:37] <GimmeMoreCoinz> but it won't take nearly as long since I have a basis. [06:38] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Know what i'm doing. [06:38] <TwinArmageddonz> good luck [06:38] <GimmeMoreCoinz> thanks. [06:38] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I just can't build petit smash bros on an inferior souce. [06:38] <GimmeMoreCoinz> source* [06:38] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I've been modifying the current source to look more how I want. [06:38] <GimmeMoreCoinz> but in the end i'll probably restart everything. [06:39] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it gives me alot more room to be more organized. [06:39] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Hehe. [06:39] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I hope everyone will be as excited as I am to see the changes made. [06:39] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm definitely going to be making gameplay alot smoother. and more sharp. [06:40] <TwinArmageddonz> that's basically what i did for aottg but more organized [06:40] <GimmeMoreCoinz> mhm. [06:40] <TwinArmageddonz> for aottg i made a cool sprite and i wanted to see how it looked in-game so i wrote a blank prg with bad sprite movement [06:40] <GimmeMoreCoinz> It's funny how much mutation petit smash bros is going to go through. [06:40] <TwinArmageddonz> XD [06:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm serious it's new source will look nothing like it's original. [06:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'm already considering creating a custom data structure called GAME_EVENT [06:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and some sort of system that moniters everything called GAME_MONITER [06:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> basically a more universal.. [06:41] <GimmeMoreCoinz> so really what I'm talking about is an event engine I can build petit smash onto [06:42] <TwinArmageddonz> O.o [06:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> rather than going if mario_punching==1 and mario_frame&lt;4 then mario_frame=mario_frame+1 : CHRSET mariosprite, marioframe [06:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it'll be [06:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> advance_frame(character_4, game_events(actions_cache(current_action)) [06:43] <GimmeMoreCoinz> er [06:44] <TwinArmageddonz> o.O [06:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> current_action=event_action [06:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> gosub @advance_frame [06:44] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and in @advance frame it'll be [06:45] <TwinArmageddonz> that looks very confusing [06:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> this_event_type=actions_cache(current_action) [06:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> for t=1 to total_events [06:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> if game_events(this_action)=t then goto @handle_events+str$(t) [06:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> next t [06:45] <GimmeMoreCoinz> something along those lines. [06:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> in a higher level language it'd be more like [06:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> call this subroutine if this is the current event. Automate it so I dont have to code it. [06:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> higher level language goes [06:46] <TwinArmageddonz> woah i didnt know you could do this: goto @handle_events+str$(t) [06:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Okay for each T, call this_item.thisfunction(this_action) ) [06:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I think you can... [06:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> so long as the subroutine matches I haven't tested [06:46] <TwinArmageddonz> i'll try it [06:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it should work because you can call strings with gosub [06:46] <GimmeMoreCoinz> or so i've "read" [06:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> anyways yeah it's hard to do this type of game without a framework to build it on and that was my first mistake. [06:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I focused too much on the sprites and not enough on a game engine to support everything I needed. so i have to code all the functionality up from the ground. [06:47] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I have most of it coded (in my head) because most of my projects work like this. [06:48] <TwinArmageddonz> SYNTAX ERROR D: [06:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> lamesauce. [06:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> well good to know you can't do that. [06:48] <GimmeMoreCoinz> what if you do [06:49] <GimmeMoreCoinz> mystring$="subroutine"+str$(t) [06:49] <GimmeMoreCoinz> gosub mystring$ [06:49] <TwinArmageddonz> hmm [06:50] <TwinArmageddonz> nope [06:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeah i just teste dit to.. [06:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> i swear I read that you coudl do that somewhere [06:51] <GimmeMoreCoinz> -.- [06:51] <TwinArmageddonz> ikr [06:52] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Creating work around now!! [06:52] <TwinArmageddonz> cool [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> @R [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> SUBROUTINE=0 [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> FOR T=1 to 3 [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> IF T==1 then gosub @sub1 [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> if T==2 then gosub @sub2 [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> if T==3 then gosub @sub3 [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> next T [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> goto @R [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> @Sub1 [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> return [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> @Sub2 [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> return [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> @sub3 [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> return [06:55] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it's ugly but it works [06:56] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I just wish I could automate it a bit more. [06:56] <GimmeMoreCoinz> but this is why I could use scripts [06:56] <TwinArmageddonz> yeah [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> @Script_interprete [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> For t=1 to remaining_actions [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> this_action_Id=action_cache(t, 1) [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> this_action_type=action_cache(t, 2) [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> this_action_param1=action_cache(3) [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> this_action_X=action_cache(4) [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> this_action_object_id=action_cache(5) [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> if this_action_type==1 then gosub @punch_action [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> if this_action_type==2 then gosub @kick_action [06:57] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and so on. [06:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and then I can basically fill those parameters with whatever i want [06:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and the engine takes care of the rest of it for me [06:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> no complex ifs in the main code [06:58] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and something like this would be run each frame to deal with more than one action per frame [06:59] <TwinArmageddonz> nice [06:59] <TwinArmageddonz> but those are really long names you might want to shorten them later [07:00] <TwinArmageddonz> once it starts to process more it'll take longer with those big names, it's less lag when you have shorter names [07:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeah i would. shorten them definitely. I found naming things long in petit computer causes code readability issues. [07:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Yeah i read that whole thing about subroutine names. [07:00] <TwinArmageddonz> that too [07:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> and apparently adding, dividing and multiplying are the same speed which is wierd because on some systems they aren't. [07:00] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I think the faster one got put on a limiter to match the speed of the other ones. [07:01] <TwinArmageddonz> O.o [07:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> or it's using some kind of mathematical cache where one mathematical function is performed at priority speed over other commands. [07:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> actually.. [07:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> that's not a bad idea [07:01] <TwinArmageddonz> i had to shorten a lot of names in aottg bc it was lagging so much with npc it was almost unplayable [07:01] <PTC Wikia Bot> They level the speed to make things consistent. This is supposed to be easy, after all [07:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> choosing to execute the faster commands first, and then executing the slower commands once per cpu count. [07:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh hi randomous. [07:01] <TwinArmageddonz> hi [07:01] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hello [07:01] <GimmeMoreCoinz> How was your halloween? [07:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> Hmmm well, I went to the movies to see World War Z [07:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> (University movie theatre) [07:02] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Was it good? [07:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> (it was free) [07:02] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh nice. [07:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> I thought so [07:02] <PTC Wikia Bot> How about you? (By the way, I have to go really soon) [07:02] <GimmeMoreCoinz> randomous what do you think of my rantings on petit smash and how I wanna build an engine to handle events on a per frame basis at priority based execution. [07:03] <GimmeMoreCoinz> so I can sort events and choose how important those changes are each frame? [07:03] <PTC Wikia Bot> Sounds fine to me. Just remember how slow petit computer is, and remember that vsync is your friend [07:03] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I kind of just went to a class thing today that i'm in and then biked home after finding out some dissapointing news. [07:03] <PTC Wikia Bot> What was that? [07:04] <TwinArmageddonz> (the grown-ups are talking i must hide) [07:04] <PTC Wikia Bot> What? Nonsense [07:04] <GimmeMoreCoinz> The store here can't sell me a samsung galaxy s2 they dont carry them anymore and that's the minimum spec phone i'd even want if i got a new one all they have left is s4's which i cant afford and stupid android 2.1 phones that are outdated [07:05] <PTC Wikia Bot> They don't have a Nexus? EVERYONE carries a nexus lol [07:05] <PTC Wikia Bot> I have a Nexus... it's awesome [07:05] <PTC Wikia Bot> (Galaxy Nexus, not LG Nexus) [07:05] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I can only afford a 200 dollar phone and the nexus is more expensive i can't go on contract cause of bad credit -.- [07:05] <PTC Wikia Bot> What? The galaxy nexus is only 150 lol [07:05] <GimmeMoreCoinz> they basically said they dont have any galaxy stuff [07:05] <GimmeMoreCoinz> only IPHONES [07:05] <PTC Wikia Bot> Ah [07:05] <GimmeMoreCoinz> cause everyone here wants those [07:05] <GimmeMoreCoinz> So i would have to wait a whole week [07:05] <PTC Wikia Bot> Well, order online [07:06] <GimmeMoreCoinz> then i found out later on i can't even afford the 450 dollars.. [07:06] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'm sorry [07:06] <GimmeMoreCoinz> oh it ried that the site I was going to order from told me [07:06] <GimmeMoreCoinz> my debit visa is no good [07:06] <GimmeMoreCoinz> &gt;.&lt; [07:06] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'm sorry [07:06] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it's ok id go ebay but i find people over price used items [07:07] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I'll get one eventually i'm just impatient [07:07] <GimmeMoreCoinz> &gt;.&gt; my current cell phones been really aggrivating me lately. [07:07] <PTC Wikia Bot> That stinks [07:07] <GimmeMoreCoinz> mhm [07:07] <GimmeMoreCoinz> can't even keep a skype call going... [07:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> or biking. lol [07:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> downhill easyyy [07:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> up hill not so much [07:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I can get to the rec center in my town. [07:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I leave at 8:45 today, I got there at 8:55 am. [07:11] <GimmeMoreCoinz> so ten minutes there. [07:12] <GimmeMoreCoinz> Without doddling or slowing down, still takes almost double the time 20 minutes to half an hour to get back. [07:12] <TwinArmageddonz> O.o [07:12] <GimmeMoreCoinz> I could probably be ther efaster to if I wasn't so cold. [07:12] <GimmeMoreCoinz> it's about half a kilometer give or take. [07:13] <GimmeMoreCoinz> http://goo.gl/maps/84xUQ [07:13] <GimmeMoreCoinz> this is my morning route [07:14] <TwinArmageddonz> that looks scary [07:14] <GimmeMoreCoinz> why? [07:14] <TwinArmageddonz> it is canadia [07:15] <GimmeMoreCoinz> yeah. [07:15] <GimmeMoreCoinz> 2.5 KM [07:15] <GimmeMoreCoinz> It' seven longer than i thought [07:15] <GimmeMoreCoinz> o.0 [07:15] <TwinArmageddonz> canananadianaidia [07:16] <GimmeMoreCoinz> 1.5 miles [07:16] <GimmeMoreCoinz> in the morning. [07:16] <GimmeMoreCoinz> every day on bike. [07:16] <GimmeMoreCoinz> u_u [07:17] <TwinArmageddonz> O.o [07:17] <GimmeMoreCoinz> https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=cr&amp;ei=SVVzUqzLG-3wyAHi-oCYCg#q=2.5+km+to+miles [07:17] <GimmeMoreCoinz> that's the distance I have to go to get to the local rec center where my class is [07:18] <TwinArmageddonz> o.O [07:25] <TwinArmageddonz> hi [07:26] <PTC Wikia Bot> OK, one thing real quick, then I have to leave again. [07:26] <PTC Wikia Bot> I just found out... that my text editor has VIsual Studio like tab completion. [07:27] <PTC Wikia Bot> This... is... INCREDIBLE. [07:27] <PTC Wikia Bot> That's all [07:27] <TwinArmageddonz> Visual Studio? [07:27] <PTC Wikia Bot> Bye again [07:27] <TwinArmageddonz> bye [07:27] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh, yea [07:27] <PTC Wikia Bot> Errr it's what you use to develop Windows programs [07:27] <TwinArmageddonz> oh [07:27] <PTC Wikia Bot> You can press "tab" and it'll automatically complete variable names, or provide a list of them if it can't choose [07:27] <PTC Wikia Bot> It's great [07:27] <TwinArmageddonz> cool [07:28] <TwinArmageddonz> hello [07:28] <Crackerjack.bailey> hey guys!!! [07:29] <Crackerjack.bailey> I like your game, TwinArmageddonz. [07:30] <TwinArmageddonz> thanks [07:31] <Crackerjack.bailey> mind If I port it to Jack OS? [07:31] <PTC Wikia Bot> OK, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to jump in again. [07:31] <TwinArmageddonz> sure [07:31] <PTC Wikia Bot> I just wanted to say.... [07:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> It's November [07:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> Bye! [07:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> [07:32] <TwinArmageddonz> woah [07:32] <TwinArmageddonz> my entire life is a lie [07:32] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol I'm totally sorry, I actually forgot what I wanted to say. [07:33] <TwinArmageddonz> i'm rethinking my entire existence [07:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> XD [07:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> that's funny. [07:33] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh well, see you later! [07:33] <TwinArmageddonz> bye [07:33] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol twin [07:33] <BrianXP7> wow, im late... [07:33] <TwinArmageddonz> hi [07:33] <BrianXP7> hi [07:33] <GimmeMoreCoinz> morning [07:33] <Crackerjack.bailey> hello!!!! [07:33] <BrianXP7> hi jack... [07:34] <PTC Wikia Bot> Oh. OH. BRian [07:34] <BrianXP7> yes? [07:34] <PTC Wikia Bot> I'm sorry, I really need to do work, but you must know [07:34] <BrianXP7> what? [07:34] <PTC Wikia Bot> We now have the power to appoint admins [07:34] <PTC Wikia Bot> BUT [07:34] <PTC Wikia Bot> We also have the power to appoint bureaucrats, which I think should not be given out [07:35] <BrianXP7> we cant remove other members' bureaucrat status [07:35] <PTC Wikia Bot> Otherwise we can't revoke the privilege, and we'd have to ask Ddayton [07:35] <BrianXP7> yeah, that [07:35] <PTC Wikia Bot> That's why I say no \ [07:35] <BrianXP7> wait...i dont think even ddayton can remove that [07:35] <PTC Wikia Bot> Even though it's terrible (I'm sure others want to be bureaucrats too) [07:35] <BrianXP7> yeah [07:35] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yes he can [07:35] <GimmeMoreCoinz> plus they could get talked at by trouble makers and asked to kick or ban peoples who dont deserve it. [07:35] <PTC Wikia Bot> He has an even higher status [07:35] <BrianXP7> really? [07:35] <BrianXP7> oh... [07:35] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yeah, go look at his page [07:36] <GimmeMoreCoinz> highest elevation admin status? [07:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> So here's what I had in mind [07:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol I think it says Wiki founder [07:36] <BrianXP7> ahhh!!!! [07:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> Brian, I have an idea [07:36] <BrianXP7> *bangs head into couch* [07:36] <BrianXP7> *stops* [07:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> ...? [07:36] <BrianXP7> what? [07:36] <Crackerjack.bailey> LOL [07:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> Are you quite alright? [07:36] <BrianXP7> yeah... [07:36] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol [07:36] <BrianXP7> just a bit sleepy [07:37] <PTC Wikia Bot> OK, so we should let people register to become admins [07:37] <BrianXP7> wait, ill go make the chat window a tab instead of a popup [07:37] <BrianXP7> there's a page for that [07:37] <BrianXP7> brb [07:37] <PTC Wikia Bot> We'll then monitor their behavior on the wiki [07:37] <PTC Wikia Bot> And then choose carefully [07:37] <Crackerjack.bailey> come on, It's 7 in the morning!!!! [07:37] <PTC Wikia Bot> It's 3AM here [07:37] <BrianXP7> Petit Computer Wiki:Administrators [07:37] <TwinArmageddonz> 3:30 here [07:37] <BrianXP7> well, its 12 here in la [07:37] <BrianXP7> jack, you're in the uk! [07:37] <PTC Wikia Bot> What's that page for Brian? [07:38] <BrianXP7> or summat... [07:38] <BrianXP7> well, that page is documentabtion about admins [07:38] <PTC Wikia Bot> Yes [07:38] <BrianXP7> that i accidentally deleted during the deletion spree of august [07:38] <PTC Wikia Bot> Ah, you should be more careful in the future lol [07:38] <BrianXP7> i restored all of them just now :3 [07:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> Well, we still need a place where people can say "I want to be an admin, here are my qualifications" [07:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> And then we should make a joint decision [07:39] <BrianXP7> the forum's an idea place.. [07:39] <BrianXP7> *ideal [07:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> That's fine [07:39] <Crackerjack.bailey> I want to be an admin!!!!! [07:39] <BrianXP7> but it suggested a page for larger wikis [07:39] <PTC Wikia Bot> We should make our own "admin qualities" page or something [07:40] <BrianXP7> yes, like at least have a true development background [07:40] <PTC Wikia Bot> Well, that's kind of restrictive [07:40] <BrianXP7> yeah...it bit [07:40] <BrianXP7> not many do have one... [07:40] <TwinArmageddonz> i whatnt two beadmain becusz i amg a meemosefoo [07:40] <BrianXP7> especially what ptc's target demographic [07:40] <PTC Wikia Bot> I was thinking more like "Can spell and use proper grammar when they need to" [07:40] <BrianXP7> yeah, like that [07:40] <PTC Wikia Bot> And "Has free time to do things on the wiki once in a while" [07:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> And "Won't go on a banning spree" [07:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> And "Gets along with the other administrators" [07:41] <TwinArmageddonz> i asfdancan speell and oos gramer [07:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> And "Is of a certain age/maturity" [07:41] <BrianXP7> "1 week trial period"? [07:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> Lol twin [07:41] <BrianXP7> lol [07:41] <TwinArmageddonz> XD [07:41] <PTC Wikia Bot> And "Understands the current category and layout system" [07:41] <Crackerjack.bailey> you can trust me. [07:41] <BrianXP7> uh, jack...im sorry... [07:42] <PTC Wikia Bot> And "Has contributed at least X pages with content" [07:42] <BrianXP7> at least 250 edits [07:42] <PTC Wikia Bot> And "Has been a member for at least X time" [07:42] <PTC Wikia Bot> No, it should NOT be based on edits whatsoever [07:42] <PTC Wikia Bot> It should be based on content [07:42] <BrianXP7> trusted content? [07:42] <BrianXP7> oh yeah, edits can also have spammy stuffs