Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24854750-20140623211714/@comment-24142133-20140629151116

Chat being removed only accomplished two things. Moving conflict off the wiki (chat) and killing off 60% of the activity.

When the point of alternative chat was brought up, the admins merely shrugged it off saying "the problem's aren't here now". While that does make this place seem a lot nicer to newer users, it wasn't exactly a good idea to remove chat on the basis of problems being off the wiki due to what we see in plenty of threads and the general lack of enough activity to spark that sort of thing. The problem is that people got too attached to the chat and left without it. It would've been a better idea to bring it some better enforcement of rules and preventing arguments, but most of our admins left on the basis of the job being too stressful. While normal users (myself included) did put a bit too much of the blame on them, we're now in a situation with only two people around to ever enforce anything. One of them inactive with this sort of thing and the other intentionally staying away from it, leaving the people involved in the argument to haphazardly solve it themselves.

It pretty much justifies why we needed admins in the first place. Most of our solved problems amounted to "delete all posts in the topic to clean it all up" or requiring someone like SquareFingers to come in with some harsh but valid reasoning.

Aside from everything else I've said and being more relevant, chat was only going to be re-added if nothing improved/worsened after removal. But with the loss of activity (most of it being what chat removal was intended to stop), we're most likely not going to see a return of official chat.

tl;dr go to kland3 for chat now if you truly want it.